Waterboarding Khalid Sheikh Mohammed DID NOT LEAD TO THE CAPTURE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN!!

What? The Geneva Conventions specifically apply to prisoners of war. That was one of the reasons they were drafted-to give combatants protection from their captors.

 

Like we just recognized "international law" sending a hit team into Pakistan to execute Bin Laden.

ROFLMAO ........... two-faced libs.

 

That is a silly argument. It does not say in the constitution that you can't slap your neighbor in the face either. If you do you can get assault charges. It IS illegal to slap your neighbor and it is not in the constitution.
Man the defenders of torture are getting really desperate in their arguments.

What is the worse part of this is that these Geneva Laws were made to protect our soldiers too. If we think we can do it then they can do it to our brave soldiers.
The rule of law should apply to all not a select few. A person in power should not be allowed to break the law just because they are in power.

OBAMA GOT Osama

 

Look at America before you accuse 'libs' of being two-faced. Your entire foreign policy is riddled with two-faced dealings. But on one count you're correct; America doen't care much for international law. It isn't something to be smugly crowing about either, more something to be deeply ashamed of.

 

Water on the face doesnt cause "severe pain or suffering"

 

Theyve beheaded and mutilated our soldiers. Do you really think agreeing not to poor water on their face is going to motivate them to alter their behavior?

 

In order for combatants to to receive POW status they must

Al Qaeda does not.

 

so any foreign power can torture cia agents?

 

There is a difference as to an open policy to do something illegal and a 1 time event to capture/kill America's #1 enemy.

 

No that would be you,

In the manner in which they used it it was and we did.

EIT and good analysts did.

 

Which provisions and conventions are you specifically referring to?

 

If a CIA undercover agent is caught they are treated as a spy not a POW.

 

If we could only get our enemies to pledge to treat those they capture in the same manner we do the world would be a much more civilized place and we could all sleep better at night.

Does that fact escape you?

 

The definition of a spy given in this Article remains completely valid since the Geneva Convention contains no similar provision. However, a spy is also a protected person in so far as he conforms to the definition given in Article 4 of the Fourth Convention. Under Article 5 of the Convention, the spy may nevertheless be deprived temporarily of certain rights, particularly the right of communication.

http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/COM/380-600177?OpenDocument

so can they waterboard our cia agents or not

 

my enemies lack or morality doesnt keep me up at night

but my own would

 

There is no such thing as a righty, there are only leftist losers and real Americans.

The left is ducking for cover on this one. It is more than obvious that "waterboarding" did produce viable coherent intelligence that led to the cornering of bin Laden in his squalorous mansion. A leftist loser news source who is re-creating a historical narrative to make King Hussein look like a hero instead of the mouth breathing drolling infantile imbecile that he truely is.

 

Someone has to be the better man/gov't. Sinking to the lowest common denomintator isn't working to sleeping better at nights. That just keeps the sleepless nights going on.

 

Terrorists do not conform to the traditional ideas of enemy or combatant. bin Laden was a dangerous man who had a seventh century ideology that is the true Islam. There are plenty more where he came from. The cultural demension of Islamonazi terrorism is decidedly unpeaceful, and the interconnections between various groups may be porous but communication remains essential in strategy and coordination about targets and ideological continuity. The fact remains that inteligence gathered through water boarding in 2006 & 7 led to the timely death of bin Laden. It is a simple fact that the leftist loser press and government ignore because it disrupts their ideological continuity.

 

the ends always justify the means I guess

so if raping his kids heped us find him, it would be just fine

 

Whatchu tqalkin bout willis?

 

How is it obvious when the torture took place in 2003 and the courier's name was not found out till 2007 under civil interrogations?
Looking at your posts seems your looking at politic's through rose colored partisanship. That would make anything in your eyes that a Dem does well something bad. Which makes your opinion mute.

 

That's just stupid. Raping a young child in order to find someone is not equivalent to waterboarding a terrorist in order to find Osama Bin Laden, who probably knows about thousands of different terrorist. groups. Barak Obama made the political decision to assasinate Osama Bin Laden instead of capturing the infamous terrorist and waterboarding him for information that could be vital in protecting American civilians. If the information turned out to be wrong, we would have been able to up the ante. I guess Obama didn't want to be put in that situation.

 

Can you cite this information? I am under the impression that the tactics used to assasinate Osama Bin Laden were unavailable to the public. Please cite the steps that led to the assasination of Osama Bin Laden.

 

No but if they are caught they can be prosecuted for such crimes which is why this issue has come up.
Think we could take the higher ground? Or should we behead them too?

 

Waterboarding, sleep deprivation, what ever it was, was enhanced interogation. These Islamonazi losers did not reveal this info over a latte and lemon bar at Starbucks and a copy of the New Yorker. The information about the false name of bin Laden's courier was known before Hisloserness was a canidate. The terrorists may be seventh century throw backs, but they have twentyfirst century sophistication. Again, the left ignores reality in favor of their pattycake world of playing nice. Real Americans know better than to buy this leftist loser fantasy land rhetoric that attempts to paint Chairman O'Bama as a hero. He remains a clueless idealess loser.