Can You Believe in God and Evolution?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Margot, Sep 16, 2011.

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  1. OJLeb

    OJLeb New Member

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    Lol what posts are you reading?

    Just so happens I take it personal when somebody tries to insult my faith. Hm, how weird is that?
     
  2. Incorporeal

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    On the contrary. I did go to GA Tech. (Gods Advantageous Technical) training.

    A lot you learned in 1st grade.
     
  3. OJLeb

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    Are you serious right now? Jesus Christ PBUH was a Jew. Why is this such a shock to you?

    Christianity came from Judaism. Jesus PBUH is Jewish. 1+1=2.

    You deny this? Then you deny Allah SWT being the God in the Bible and the Torah.

    So much denial....

    And I'm not Atheist, lol

    Salam
     
  4. Incorporeal

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    It did happen... it happened in the scenario you presented as a hypothetical.
    Read your statement again:
    "Unless God somehow created a singularity on the boat where every single species could fit in there, along with its food, it is IMPOSSIBLE."

    So for the purposes of what you were suggesting, God created a singularity.
     
  5. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Where are you Margot? No further input?

     
  6. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    No (*)(*)(*)(*), I know what I said, and finally you're getting what I said too. It took you awhile to read that dictionary, huh?
     
  7. Incorporeal

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    I haven't touched the dictionary since this conversation between you and I started. Seemingly you are catching on to what I was saying, because I am still saying the same thing as I originally stated, but you are taking a different view of what I stated.
     
  8. Clint Torres

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    what evidence do you have to back this up?
     
  9. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    Mmm no, you flat out said that I created a scenario and then said that scenario was impossible. I didn't say that, sorry.
     
  10. Incorporeal

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    No! Quit being deceptive. You were the first to mention anything being "impossible". Lay that one on your own pillow and sleep on it.

    One more time... here is what you said:
    ""Unless God somehow created a singularity on the boat where every single species could fit in there, along with its food, it is IMPOSSIBLE.""
     
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    One can believe in Genesis and believe in evolution with no conflict.

    The sun was not created until the fourth day. Since there was no sun then "a day" as we know it can not be marked. There was no time as we know it.

    The days prior to the sun could be a billion years each in length.
     
  12. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    So you're saying you didn't say that I said the scenario that I set aside (see definition of unless), was impossible?
     
  13. GraspingforPeace

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    No, but it would help to understand what you're saying.

    Semantics for the win!

    How do you think a mule is born?
     
  14. Incorporeal

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    You have read several times what I have said and what you have said. There is no need for you to further attempt to twist what was actually said. The written record on this thread speaks for itself.
     
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    So how do you interpret what is to be taken literally and what, allegorically / symbolically?
    Word a direct quote from Jesus (when he wasn't telling a parable) be allegorical if you don't like it?
    What about lots of direct quotes from Jesus, during his preachings on how we should act & treat each other? Those are allegory if you don't like them?
    But stories about talking mules and man eating whales are literal?

    Is it possible that you're wrong about people who do not view the Bible exactly the way that you do?
    Why are all your interpretations right and everyone else's wrong?
     
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    Love thy enemy.
    Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.
    Judge not lest ye be judged.
    Do not worry abot the speck in thy brother's eye while you have a plank in your own.
    Any time you have refused to help anyone who needed it, you have rejected Me.

    Just a few...
     
  17. Quantrill

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    Well, there is a tremendous difference.

    No, you don't know that there had to be that many. And I do not believe in evolution.

    Quantrill
     
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    Gen.1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

    Quantrill
     
  19. Quantrill

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    First of all, most everyone here are not Christian, and are intepreting the Bible to make it say something different then what it says. To take away from the supernatural and miraculous nature of God and the Bible.

    When a Christian interprets something as an allegory that I don't, he still recognizes that that which the allegory is describing is a literal truth. Plus, the allegory itself is based upon literal events.

    For example: Gal.4:22-28 "For it is written, that Abraham, had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a free-woman. But he who was of the bond-woman was born after the flesh; but he of the free woman was by promise. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar...But Jeruslam which is above is free, which is the mother of us all....Now we, brethren as Isaac was, are the children of promise. "

    So here, Hagar a slave woman produced child of bondage. Sarah, a free woman, produced a child of promise. These are used as an allegory to show that the believers under the new covenant are children of promise. Those under the old covenant were under bondage. Just because Isaac and Ishamael are used as an allegory doesn't mean they didn't exist. They did. But events in their lives are used by the Scriptures to picture a truth.

    If I am wrong, concerning my understanding of the Bible, then I can be shown I am wrong by the Bible.

    Quantrill
     
  20. PatrickT

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    Don't be silly. Christians can believe in anything they want. That's why it's called faith. I know Christians who believe in fortune tellers.

    Looking for the logical in the inherently illogical is the flaw. It is a leap of faith and should be accepted as such.

    And, as long as I am not being attacked, I don't care what people believe.
     
  21. Quantrill

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    Could you give the Scripture reference of these. And explain where I am guilty of these?

    Quantrill
     
  22. Quantrill

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    No, Christians can't believe anything they want. That is not the Christian faith.

    Quantrill
     
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    I know. Quantrill for example is not a Christian - but I'm sure you know this on your own. I only don't understand why you are playing such a stereotypical propagandistic person. What's the deeper reason for your crazy behavior? What do you like to know?

    http://youtu.be/tsPoXydsSpk
     
  24. Quantrill

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    I know who a Christian is. You don't?

    Quantrill
     
  25. PatrickT

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    Nonsense. Christians can quibble endlessly over details but Quantrill isn't the arbiter. Oh, wait, there is no arbiter is there?
     
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