Trayvon Martin was suspended from school for having a 'burglary tool' and women's jew

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  1. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    1. It does add up to a troubled history. Having grown up in shall we say a less than perfect environment I think that it's BS that this is dismissed as par for the course and that level of condescension, though coming from a position of wishing to be good-hearted, is racist.

    Black kids are supposed to have pot on them? They're supposed to have jewelry and a screwdriver? They're supposed to hit bus drivers or be suspended from school because all urban black kids fit THIS profile?

    That's BS. Most kids in these neighborhoods are NOT on the path to being a stereotype, but THOSE kids don't get the press. My best friend grew up in the same ghetto, had a single mom at home and went to the University of Michigan on scholarship.

    I hate this myth about urban blacks that they are somehow inclined to criminality--but's that's okay because society gave them the (*)(*)(*)(*) end of the stick. It's not true. Not true. Not true. Yes, there were (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s in our neighborhood selling (*)(*)(*)(*) and shooting up the place, but they were NOT the majority.

    Trayvon was on a dangerous rode because this is not typical teen stuff. This is rebellious, gonna get you shot or in jail behavior and it is sad, very sad that there was no one who put their foot down to get him off that path.

    His parents should have grounded his ass. They were either too lenient or too absentee.

    2. Murder is a particular crime with particular components. This does not fit. It is homicide or manslaughter.

    3. But you are right. None of that has ANY bearing on this case, nor does Zimmerman's prior history (until sentencing).

    The ADA must prove beyond a reasonable level of doubt that Zimmerman did not discharge his weapon in self-defense.

    Every day we provide a legal defense to people who many wholeheartedly believe are guilty and some days we defend people who we believe are innocent. The law only works when it is blind and impartial. If Zimmerman is either charged or convicted based on public opinion then we might as well throw the whole legal system out because a very dangerous precedence is being set.

    Inviting the family to Congress is inappropriate because it has now tampered with the jury. Between that and the media attention, we are perilously close to the inability to have a fair trial--either fair to Zimmerman or fair to Trayvon.
     
  2. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Burglary tool? I probably carry one of those in my handbag every day, I must be planning on breaking into a house, or a car. :rolleyes:

    Will the slander of a dead child never stop?
     
  3. RiseAgainst

    RiseAgainst Banned

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    Now you listen to me Mak. What was he doing with women's jewelery huh? You don't have any clue what is going on over here from down under.
     
  4. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    We get news too, you know, and we have all heard about this case. How do you know whether the jewels were stolen? There could be an explanation for it.
     
  5. JavisBeason

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    wow... never want to admit you're wrong huh? lol
     
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    I'm sure there is. He was a cross-dresser.

    :roll:
     
  7. JavisBeason

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    St. Trayvon can do nothing wrong and any attempt to show criminal behavior that would actually support Zimmerman's claim that he looked to be up to no good is to be ignored.....
     
  8. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    You are assuming he stole them when there is no evidence.
     
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    pragueman New Member Past Donor

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    I don't know the facts on this case and no one really does yet. However, when I was 17, I had already smoked pot and stolen before. Luckily I never got shot walking in the neighborhood. Creating a sinister case based on weed and petty theft are pretty weak
     
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    so lets not try and figure it out, huh? Lets ignore the fact he had them and not figure out why he had them because he's dead. Oh, and because the answer may not be what the Trayvon supporters want to hear....


    But as a rational human adult.... you can't say this isn't cause for concern. 17 y.o.'s don't just walk around with WOMEN'S jewelry in their bag.


    Mother's day isn't for a couple of months.... maybe a mother's bday.... but that's a stretch there.


    Coupled with the fact he had "burglary tools" in his bag.... Things don't look well for St. Trayvon and his mass of agenda driven followers.
     
  11. Makedde

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    What was this 'tool' he had. A burglary tool could be anything. He probably had a key.
     
  12. JavisBeason

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    I've answered this for you before.... I will answer it again here....

    noone has said....

    depends on what else was in there.... like a toothbrush can be considered a shank if it's sharpened down to a point....


    a bottle of Heet [​IMG] can be considered a key ingredient in making meth.... or a gas enhancer for your vehicle. Depends whether or not you have the other ingredients needed to make meth is how they classify a bottle of HEET.


    Same with burglary tools.... considering female jewelry was found in the same bag.... it can be argued that a gloves, a ski mask, glass cutter, or whatever else could be considered a burglary tool, when taken for what they are individually, probably mean nothing.


    St. Trayvon was a theif and a thug.... pick a better martyr.... I hear the Duke Lacrosse girl who claimed rape is wanting some attention again.
     
  13. Makedde

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    So no one even knows if it even was a too to break into houses. Okay then. He probably had a freaking swiss army knife and some cheap jewelery.
     
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    lol.... keep hoping he's a saint... that's worked out well in the past for ya, huh?
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I am not thinking anything bad of the kid because he is DEAD and not here to defend himself. And I will not attack the character of a poor murdered child.
     
  16. JavisBeason

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    awwww, poor innocent Trayvon....


    His charector is KEY to this case.... I mean, if this kid really was a saint.... was on his way home from Church, straight A student... scholarship offer, wearing a shirt and tie, you have a better chance of convincing people that Zimmerman was just looking to shoot a black kid.


    But instead, you have a "no_limit_n***a", may have taken a swing at a bus driver, has potentially stolen jewelry in his bag with tools, suspended for drugs, and is dressed in a hidden manner walking a high crime neighborhood at night....

    Maybe that shows what you don't want to admit... that if you saw saw Trayvon walking around in your neighborhood, you'd be suspicious too

    Just like the charector of the chick who accused the Duke Lacrosse players of rape needed to be explored. Especially now when we can see she had a history of reporting false rapes for revenge tactics. You didn't want anyone to investigate her either I remember.


    Of course you don't want anyone investigating Trayvon's true self... it might show Zimmerman was right.
     
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    Don't be absurd. Are your laws so retarded that a sidewalk is classed as a 'deadly weapon'? Oh, and by the way, Trayvon was as entitled to defend himself as anyone else-especially as he was only armed with a bag of Skittles. And in case it escaped your notice it was Zimmerman who had the deadly weapon.
     
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    Trayvon had never been cited for, nor charged with, any criminal behaviour. Zimmerman, on the other hand, had. Several times.
     
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    They don't want facts, they just want to smear a dead child's name for the sake of whatever festers at the back of their minds. The irony that they must defend a violent Hispanic male to do so is palpable.
     
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    STRAWMAN. No one is claiming that Zimmerman knew of Martin's history of thuggery. People are claiming that Martin's history of thuggery increases the probability that Martin was indeed casing homes when Zimmerman was observing him. Do not put words in others' mouths.
     
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    Wing nuts defended Zimmerman saying he may have been charged with some stuff but never convicted. Charges dropped.

    Now the same group is demonizing the kid who has never even been charged with anything.

    Nice double standard. Typical.
     
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    "Wingnuts" such as these are a cancer on our society.
     
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    "Our" society?

    You're a foreigner not one of us.
     
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    Isnt there a juvenile record that his parents Lawyers dont want anyone to see?
     
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    What a pathetically hypocritical post. Your entire narrative is based upon biased speculation you're trying to pass off as actual events.

    The evidence and information we have at present support Zimmerman. It does not support Martin. Your shameful inability to think critically has you and yours jousting windmills of your own design.
     

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