What Don't You Like About The Gay Community?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by 808state, Jun 13, 2011.

  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Wow! That is some bigoted ignorance you're spewing. :(
     
  2. Johnny-C

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    Is English your native language? It is mine, and I know that you are not using it here. I'm not xenophobic, but maybe if you used your native language, someone might be willing/able to translate and perhaps understand what it is you are trying to say.

    Now, I DO get the sense that you are anti-homosexual or homophobic... but honestly I CANNOT understand anything beyond that.

    Please, try to write something that can be fully understood. We can disagree if/when I DO understand, but for now it is simply baffling. :(
     
  3. Perriquine

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    Maybe you should pay for your 'lifestyle' of contributing to the stigmatizing of gay people and the harm that causes, thereby draining off the Health budget.

    I can think of no way to characterize your statement but as incredibly bigoted. I have been in a monogamous relationship for 11-1/2 years, am not HIV+, do not engage in any activity that is likely to cause me to become HIV+, and most certainly am not "draining and living off the Health budget".

    You think I don't pay the same costs as heterosexuals? I don't get any special tax breaks for being gay; in fact, I pay more than my fair share, supporting the education of other people's kids, etc.

    Now I remember why I've had you on ignore.
     
  4. smileyface

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    What gay community are you talking about? There are many in most cities. It seems difficult to lump us all together as one. There are lesbian and gay communities. What are you trying to discuss here? What is the point of such a shotgun approach when looking at the gay/lesbian population? What does a person think of the heterosexual community? This question is also impossible silly and pointless.
     
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    There is no such thing as a lesbian/gay lifestyle. Everyone has a lifestyle. All people on the planet have lifestyles. What exactly are you attempting to get at? From this post you seem to be confused. It is impossible to know what evil you are talking about. Do you think gay's and lesbians watch to much TV?
     
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    you are another one who shows a lack of knowledge when it comes to lifestyle. The heterosexual community never gets sick? Considering the population of lesbians and gays is about 3%. Maybe a tad higher. You're saying we spend more on medical expenses than the 97% heterosexual population. I really doubt this. I think the control of my diabetes costs the same amount as a straight women's does.
    I suggest you check a dictionary on the word lifestyle.
     
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    Wow you sure have a lot of hate going on in this post. You dislike the fact some lesbians dislike men. Do you dislike the heterosexual women, who for whatever reason dislike men? Some have had awful experiences and don't trust them and refuse to associate with males because of this. They are not lesbian but have the same feelings of the particular lesbians you are speaking about. How do you handle them? All butch type lesbians do not hate males that would be a very broad generalization. It is simply not true. All lesbians do not hate males. I tend to think an anger management class would help you get through some of the rabid hate expressed in your post.
    Oh by the way those who you are referencing really don't need your particular voice speaking for them. They would perhaps prefer you didn't speak for them.
     
  8. diligent

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    Diabetes unlike permissive homosexuality does not depend on lifestyle eg from Wilkepedia:

    'Diabetes mellitus, often simply referred to as diabetes, is a group of metabolic diseases in which a person has high blood sugar, either because the body does not produce enough insulin, or because cells do not respond to the insulin that is produced.[2] This high blood sugar produces the classical symptoms of polyuria (frequent urination), polydipsia (increased thirst) and polyphagia (increased hunger).


    So stop your pernicious life style and demanding every right under the sun to accomodate it, so we wont have to waste so much of the taxpayers' hard earned money on this 'beggar thy neigbour',utterly selfish behaviour.
     
  9. JeffLV

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    Umm Diabedes is largely caused by lifestyle (eating) choices.

    And as a female homosexual, her "lifestyle" has fewer risks of disease and other negative health concerns than even heterosexual couples.

    Far more is "wasted" on heterosexual couples that get their extra rights, literally thousands of rights that accomodate them in various forms and situations.
     
  10. diligent

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    You evidently can't read.
     
  11. JeffLV

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    Can't read what? your brief quote on Diabedes that describes the nature of the disease, but not the cause of it?
     
  12. diligent

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    Since your comprehension skills seems abysmally low, here is a repeat of nmy statement of fact:

    'Diabetes mellitus, often simply referred to as diabetes, is a group of metabolic diseases in which a person has high blood sugar, either because the body does not produce enough insulin, or because cells do not respond to the insulin that is produced.[2] This high blood sugar produces the classical symptoms of polyuria (frequent urination), polydipsia (increased thirst) and polyphagia (increased hunger).
     
  13. JeffLV

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    Does it make you feel better about yourself when you insult others? You see, I could insult you for not knowing the causes of diabedes, which would be pretty easy since that's considered common knowledge... but I'm not generally the type to try and make people feel stupid.

    Here's a quote from the same wiki you quoted from... you'll find this under the "causes" section:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_mellitus#Causes
    You see, there is a difference between describing the symptoms of a disease, and the causes of it. None of your original quote had anything to do with the lifestyle causes, nor did it have anything to do with the genetic causes... it was just a statement of symptoms.

    So yes, some forms of diabedes are due to lifestyle choices. Others are due to genetics. And yet others are due to a combination of both. None of which has to do with the fact that you didn't have a point here to begin with, be it lifestyle or genetic.
     
  14. diligent

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    You were the person that was equating diabetes to sexual diseases so endemic in the homosexual community, diseases which are soley due to their flagrant sexual lifestyle and disreards for other peoplles' l health.I repeat diabetes Type 1 is not due to lifestyle but a case may be made in this regard to Type 2. But the point I am making is that the homosexual Community is continually demanding never ending public health expenditure so they can continue with their reckless sexual practices.

    Stop trying to pretend that the sexual lifestyle of many in the homosexual community is placing a heavy load on health costs around the world. Stop trying to pretend otherwise and make excuses for such reckless behaviour. At our expense of course.
     
  15. Johnny-C

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    That they haven't 'yet' fought against abject bigotry HARD enough.
     
  16. cd8ed

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    Again:

    You don't even have a clue what you are talking about with regard to the health budget. Obesity is a MUCH larger problem in this country than AIDS has ever though of being.

    Aids, in the gay community account for less then 1 in 5. That's 20% of about 3%-5% (thats about .6% of the population. [Source]
    Obisity, as a whole, accounts for 63% of the American polulation, constuting almost 100 BILLION (yes thats a B) a year in health care, lost productivity, ect. [Source]

    Gay people, especially gay males, are more prone to be physically fit than you heteros so they would actually be the ones losing out as a whole.

    If you remove black and Hispanic gay males from the equation it drops to less than .01% of the population. Your assertion ignorant and bigoted, as usual.

    Instead of attempting, poorly I might add, to insult people you should do some logical reasoning; I know it's hard for bigots to be logical but please, try - its good for you.
     
  17. Johnny-C

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    I dislike that homosexual human beings haven't mounted an even more aggressive campaign, to push back at the bigotry and lies directed at them. I'm sure that will change soon.
     
  18. JeffLV

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    Actually there's a great variety of diseases and injuries that come as a result of reckless behavior and lifestyles.... which has little to nothing to do with the fact that these will be covered by their health insurance. This includes reckless anal sex between heterosexual couples. As cd8 pointed out, obesity is a much larger problem (no pun intended), effecting millions more people than homosexuals and is largely caused by lifestyle. Or how about smoking? Extreme sports? Etc? People take calculated risks and make stupid decisions all the time, I'm not sure why you are singling out homosexual behavior.

    I agree that homosexuals, and heterosexuals, need to practice safe sex. But trying to paint the pictures that homosexuals are leeching off the healthcare system is just asinine.
     
  19. philxx

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    The figures are this ,Lesbian Gay Community ,1000 University radical[yes you have meet them ] liberal types .

    Homosexual community =10-15% of all humanity.

    Bisexual community =60-80% of all humanity.

    Hetrosexual Community =10-15% of all all humanity


    and that is the Science of human sexuality as it presently stands.

    Ps.All sexuality is fluid ,and is a spectrum ,always remember no matter which way we Bisexuals go ,what you think is your Community or whatever,Bisexuals are amongst you ALWAYS!
     
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    That is the entire reason for the LGBTIQAPC 's existance to police the sexual behaviours of Homosexuals ,i kid you not talk to a LGBTIQC thinker and you will scratch a Hiv\Aids phobe.
    They think that they have a copyright for government funded Hiv\Aids services.

    In my ev eryday life experience ,I have never seen such open discrimination against a group or Community within in society ,until i witnessed a hetrosexual women trying to get services from the Aids council of NSW .Why ,because she didn't identify as LGBTIQor C,but as hetro-sexual.

    Yes ,Sydney Australia 2012-to?

    Any defenders of the dispicable persecutory LGBTI.

    Personally i do not tolerate the open persecution of the Sick and dying .

    Why does the LGBTI Community.

    She does recieve support very limited as they can from BGF Bobby Goldsmith foundation .which is privately funded.

    But the LGBTI Controlled ACON government funded ACON no way not a chance kicked to the curb!

    And as far as their treatment of those unfortunate enough to be brain infected and with Aids dementia ,well I have to stop now ,as it makes me that angry I am under doctors supervision for their protection!

    Their empathetic and compassionate responses ARE conditioned upon LGBTI Identification and mental filter ,much like Religious cults actually,yes in practice that is the Maddness of the LGBTIQAPC!

    Any way my dog wants a pat and that will calm me .lOh for 1mg of Valium.
     
  21. diligent

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    Stop trying to make lame excuses for pathetic behaviour by a significant number in the homosexual community.We all know that other people misbehave, but we are discussing those in the homosexual community who have no regard for other people, and are more than willing to pass on their hideous disease to others in the wider community. It is not an excuse to misbehave because others misbehave. Try that excuse in a Court of Law!

    I can't vouch for your assertion that those in the homosexual community are fitter than those the wider hetrosexual community.It's just an assertion and no more.
     
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    I am making no excuses, gay males ABSOLUTELY need to practice safer sex. Aids is a horrible epidemic in the gay community because these stupid kids do not see the impact that one night of jollies can get them into; but straight people do the same - look at the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country.

    The point that I was trying to make was that your assertion that gay people are causing a significant burden on the system is factious. You are singling out .6 percent of the population to make a rant seem logical, look at the numbers.

    .06% (gay males with aids) <--- Has been declining
    63% (obesity rates) <--- Has been increasing

    Which number do you think poses a bigger threat?
     
  23. diligent

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    I would rather have as sexual encounter with a (slightly) obese person anytime, than with a person carrying the AIDS virus. You would need to be insane to do otherwise. So why do those homosexuals wth this very dangerous, contagious virus continue to have sex? In this country you can be jailed for such a selfish, dangerous practice.
     
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    How large a number do you suggest for having sex?​
     
  25. JeffLV

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    There is no excuse for intentionally going out to infect people, and I can't claim to know why some people do so. Just like I don't know why some heterosexual men rape their wives and girlfriends. That being said, you do realize that HIV can be dormant for years, decades even, before an infected person shows symptoms... as a consequence, you can pass on the disease without even knowing it, for decades. I'm willing to bet that the vast, vast majority of HIV infectons are done unintentionally.... it takes a special sort of demon to pass on the disease knowingly, most just do it out of ignorance and failure to take proper precautions.

    So what exactly is it you're trying to prove? That there is a financial cost to this? Yes, of course... although there's nothing unique about stupid people doing stupid things that have a social cost. It's also not fair to judge ALL homosexuals for a disease and un-safe behaviors only practiced by a small subset.
     

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