God Intends Rape?

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  1. Sean Michael

    Sean Michael New Member

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    I am not SpaceCricket and they can have thier own views on the matter as well as I can. I am sure all atheists do not agree on everything.

    I completely agree with your interpretation of omnipotent, God can do absolutely anything if God so desires. So on the meaning of omnipotnce we can agree.
     
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    I bleieve that to be first the covenant God made with Adam, then the covenant God made with the ancient Hebrew people, and then the Catholic Church God established thorugh His son Jesus. Though this is going completely of track, the point I am making is that God does not intend rape. It is people who commit these acts so why blame God?.
     
  3. Sean Michael

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    The God you seem to believe in is alos one of your own perception (man made) you ultimately are being the same as those you criticise. You have reached your own god through your own ideas, so why attack religion when you have your very own also.
     
  4. cupid dave

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    Not in prudent muslim nations.... no, there God does not allow it by and large.

    The Reality is that the pagan gods in Ameruca encourage it,n especially since the penalties have been redused tio a slap on the wrist.
    That;s The Truth.

    Can you see the consistency here, wherein I have told you repeatedly that the Christian Gid is the ideal Truth, and His father uis the ever unfolding Reality that we must bow down to?


    This Trinity makes the issue understandable but does not resolve the matter of Christians imposing their reprimands on the secular sexually promiscuous American society, of course. That is a matter of Realities between the sexually promiscuous society and the the Truth which they must come to face.
    Christian have only the commandment to preach Reality, Truth, and Conscious awareness.
     
  5. Sean Michael

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    You are entitled to your opinion as well as I am mine. Though your religion is a religion of one, it is the fabrication of your own mind, and what you desire to believe. However my religion has historical evidence, and the support of many, it is also not something out of each and everyone individuals head. No noe is denying the greatness of God but maybe God wants to make Himself know to us through religion.
     
  6. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    That's the Truth.
    The Reality is that Western societies allow rape, but want to pass Laws which make the baby the victim w\to be punished.

    Though one does sympathize with those violent acts of forcible rape, as opposed to Date-Rape, we must learn in America to accept this high rate of Rape as the wages of the evil sexual culture that has been promoted here.

    Think of the Rape of the Tax Payers today, who see $1 Trillion of the $4 Trilliin dollar Federal Budget go to Welfare, where women have multiple sex partners and children they can not even connect to a man specifically.
     
  7. stroll

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    "Western societies allow rape"??!? - which society exactly are you thinking of?

    Oh right, "pagan gods in Ameruca encourage it" - but does society condone it? Do these pagan gods distribute leaflets or tell their followers at secret congregations to go out and rape? lol
     
  8. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm...

    Monotheistic "churches" started for the first time just 3362 years ago in Egypt where the paganism of polytheism had temples, congregations, and worshippers of both male and female entities.
    When Moses appeared, he collcted the Hebrew men and taught them that those sexually promiscuous religions worked against he best interests of men, the society, and the whole nation.

    Moses essentially established the first connection between the penis and salvation which he had each member indicate with a male circumscion.

    That is the Truth.
    The Reality is that sexually promiscuous societies will have enormous cases of Rape, as the chart below shows.

    The Rate of Rape in America is 100 times greater than in muslim countries like Saudi Arabia:


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    American women have instituted the Sexual Revolution but now they are crying because of the consequences.
    Only these women can stop Rape by changing the permissive culture that encouages the act and fails to punish the men who use force.
     
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    Yes, the pagans distribute pornography in the guise of advertisements, because the nakedness pays for the attention the solicitations will get.
    But the media whether TV or movies, benefits financialy by appealing to the lowest possible denominators in humans for financial gain too.

    Then the display of nakedness gives women that extra edge in their reltionships with men in all the various capacities where they interact, because the harlots maintain the additional quality of their control over sexual favors because trhey have two values in the culture.

    One value is their equality with men in every other relatioship, the basis for for their demands for equal pay, but they are also a sexual object, a valued commodity.
    They have this material advantage which is a virtual unregulated monoploy for women.
     
  10. stroll

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    No, the chart does not show this.
     
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    I am happy to see you abandon your previous line of thinking, and instead attack grammar and sentence structure.
     
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    The only supporting piece of evidence for your religion is the bible. The only Support for the bible, is the bible. Their is no other source that corroborates the events or people of the bible written during the time the events in the bible are supposed to have happened.

    You would think a man performing miracles, healing the sick, and stirring up so much trouble would have warranted a page from a scribe somewhere. It is a joke really.

    Having the support of many is moot. Islam, Judaism , Mormonism, and Scientology all have the support of many.
     
  13. stroll

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    I hope this is meant to be some sort of joke, it reads like the introduction of the psychotic slasher character in a B-movie.
     
  14. cupid dave

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    Shock Therapy always affects people the way it has you here.

    The Truth is that restaurants will hire a busty blonde before some college guy because men prefer to chance to talk to a girl for so little as a tip when they leave.
    Women have used this edge to essentially replace men in the best of jobs.

    What we can see more clearly now is the transformation of the previous Christian Equality prior to 1960 by the present Matriarchy that has been able to enforce its who culture through Poitical Correctness and replace much of the power in the Political Institution with such rules.

    It is Politically Incorrect to even raise this issue, I am sure, but the men in America have been turned into girlie-men, Gays, and criminals from Single Mother Households which now number almost half of all American Families.



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  15. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    ?

    Rapes in America are 300/1000 people while in Saudi Arabia, they are only 3/1000 people.
     
  16. DivineComedy

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    "The basic principle is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way [to react to a rape] without knowing what's going on, without having some real-time information about what's taking place." (Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta)

    So yes your Obamanation's messiah allows rape to happen in real-time, because they do not know it is a legitimate rape even when they have a claim of rape staring them in the face. And they believe rape is simply a technique, like MoHamMad's people raping slave girls and MoHamMad saying Allah created the baby so don't use the pulling out method when having sex with the war booty of slave girls you possess:

    “Rape is not an enemy but a technique of warfare -- political intimidation through the selective breeding of unarmed non-combatants.” (Zbigview Brznutski, Obama supporter)
    (Terrorized by 'War on Rape' - Washingtonpurplethrobbingpost) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/23/AR2007032301613.html

    Oh, wait, you are talking about the Christian God allowing rape of (unable to consent) slave girls to happen; Jesus said pray for God's will in earth as it is in Heaven, and not that we had it already, because it is man or woman's will to rape, not God's, God gave us free will, to do otherwise would be predestination like in Obama's Islam:

    “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." (Obama)

    So give up that free will buddy, the future does not belong to it.
     
  17. Incorporeal

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    What previous line of thinking have I abandoned? Criticizing grammar is not an abandonment of anything... it is merely a notice of questionable grammar.
     
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    Yeah, I thought SATAN caused stuffs like rape, murder and mayhem. You know, the stuff that Neocons promise to end.
     
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    Ah, yes, serving customers in a restaurant is such a desirable job. lol
    I suggest you look at the gender distribution in the top paying and prestgious jobs - just an idea, then maybe your comments wouldn't be so ludricous.
     
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    Ah, yes, serving customers in a restaurant is such a desirable job. lol
    I suggest you look at the gender distribution in the top paying and prestgious jobs - just an idea, then maybe your comments wouldn't be so ludricous.
     
  22. stroll

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    No, the chart doesn't show this.

    The dots of the chart were handpicked (note the selected numbers) to suit an argument, and they are from 2012.
    Besides, correlation=/causation.

    You need to be better than this.
     
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    Mourdock is right, rape is Gods will, that's why he created the republican party.
     
  24. FreshAir

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    does fire represent Satan, who was it that spoke from a burning bush? how do you tell them a part, maybe God has a split personality in addition to being jealous and vengeful, he is also loving and kind
     
  25. DivineComedy

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    In Islam yes, and Air in the New Testament.

    Considering three different books, that one claims came from the same source, it would not be all that strange to say that "God has a split personality."

    Fire needs three things:

    Fuel (any known weapon)
    Heat (social and economic injustice)
    Oxygen (belief that terrorism is not an enemy)​

    "[38.74] But not Iblis: he was proud and he was one of the unbelievers.
    [38.75] He said: O Iblis! what prevented you that you should do obeisance to him whom I created with My two hands? Are you proud or are you of the exalted ones?
    [38.76] He said: I am better than he; Thou hast created me of fire, and him Thou didst create of dust.
    [38.77] He said: Then get out of it, for surely you are driven away:
    [38.78] And surely My curse is on you to the day of judgment." http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=708759

    Man Satan
    ---- = -----
    Water Air

    So, here you have man is to water as Satan is to air. Or, in biblical terms Satan is the principality and the power of the air, or as Al Quacka put it:

    "Praise be to Allah, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism, and says in His Book: 'But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)'; and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad Bin-'Abdallah, who said: I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but Allah is worshipped, Allah who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my orders." One Iraq, Two Iraq, Three Iraq!

    As you can see Al Quacka's Allah is Satan, both the principality and power of the air and he controls the clouds:

    "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience" (Ephesians 2:2)

    You see, if one considers that the Gospel tells us that Jesus told us to pray to OUR father for his will in earth as it is in Heaven, rape is not God's will; God does not control the clouds or rapists.

    Hopefully when dealing with the Black Stone Isolaters and others being led by Shaitan you will find this information helpful.

    Basically, there is some connection between Islam and these Old Testament Bible thumpers; they both need a NEW testament.

    And if one looks at the eye for an eye thing with regard to the strife to a pregnant woman, and the part "And if a man strikes the eye of his manservant or the eye of his maidservant and destroys it, he shall set him free in return for his eye," how generous, obviously the Allah gave them that:

    “In the Torah We prescribed for them a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth, an equal wound for a wound: if anyone forgoes this out of charity, it will serve as atonement for his bad deeds. Those who do not judge according to what God has revealed are doing grave wrong.” (Qurʾān 5:45)

    The Old Testament bible thumpers are really closely related to Muslims.

    God does not defeat factionalism as Al Quacka believes:

    "[8.17] So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them, and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy), but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; surely Allah is Hearing, Knowing." "AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)"

    But Obama does,

    "Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, 'Do you really do that?' repeating the question thrice, 'There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection.'" http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Concerns_with_Islam:_Sexual_Slavery_in_Islam

    "[33.50] O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her-- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
    [33.51] You may put off whom you please of them, and you may take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should be pleased, all of them with what you give them, and Allah knows what is in your hearts; and Allah is Knowing, Forbearing.
    [33.52] It is not allowed to you to take women afterwards, nor that you should change them for other wives, though their beauty be pleasing to you, except what your right hand possesses and Allah is Watchful over all things."

    See, "separated provisionally" was probably the slave girls in binders, probably listing their pleasing attributes that were temporary.

    Then you are still left with what Obama said in response to his 9/11.

    Most people would agree that a master having sex with a slave is rape; the slave is simply not in a free position to consent except with another slave of their choosing.

    "We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of [rapists of slave girls in binders]." (Obama)

    Enjoy election day.
     

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