Harvard to welcome kinky sex club for students

The bolded. I honestly dont give a crap what freaks do in their actual bedrooms.

I think Harvard used to be a great institution, which is now tarnishing it's reputation. In the last yar alone we've seen the Liz Warren "minority" staff position which didnt paint them in a good light considering they kept taking bows for their diverse staff with her in mind.

now they openly allow ridiculous groups of this nature? Whatever people do is fine...but why would this be something that harvard wants to promote??

Sad to see an iconic institution go to (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

I kinda liked my story. It may not be totally original as the religious right has already played it out for us.

1.Which point am I not able to refute?
2.What was the unanswerable question again?

 

You first tried the "in their homes" card, trying to pretend we werent talking about a club being endorsed by Harvard at harvard.

To which I questioned:

Then came the Red Herring nonsense.

 

I dont see this as them promoting kinky sex. They were pretty clear about not endorsing any groups. They simply are recognizing a group of students who wish to be a formal group.
Harvard is still a great institution. Just because 20 students formed a group does not lower the quality of education.

 

It doesnt lower the quality of their education, but it certainly lowers their image. They should have higher standards on just what a legitimate group is IMO. Kinky Sex? really? Whats next, people who like feces? Where do you draw the line?

Just because some people may like to do it...does it automatically make it a legitimate group?? Can the insitution validate said groups and not have to accept some ownership of said group?

 

Harvard is not endorsing anything. They are recognizing a student group as clearly stated previously. Does that answer your unanswerable question?

It was a true story that is currently happening. I just changed the names to protect the people involved. It was meant to bring a little comedy to the conversation, I didnt realize it would hit a nerve.

 

By not saying no we wont recognize that and dont find it appropriate for our standards. (as they hinted they do have standards in the handbook for such groups), and by recognizing them...they are endorsing. By recognizing it, they have to take some ownership.

No , it idnt hit a nerve but you still havent answered it.

When you tried to take the angle of "what people do in their homes" you were not being honest, as obviously no recognition from Harvard is required for that. Are you willing to admit that?

 

They are adults. They can talk about whatever they want as long as they are not hurting people. Why do you all care? What's wrong with sex? Man this conversation is so 80's

 

Again...the issue isnt what students are talking about...its about what harvard is recognizing as a legitmate group!! I just dont see how people can be missing this, and have to think this is on purpose.
Of course they can talk about anything they want. The students are all free to run around campus claiming Yale is the superior school....do you think Harvard would recognize that one?

 

I can see where it lowers their image with some but may raise their image with others who applaud them not censoring the groups. Harvard recognizes many, many groups and lists them on their website.
Can they recognize a group without accepting ownership in that group? Absolutely, just as they have islamic groups and christian groups and catholic groups. Recognizing a group is nothing more than recognizing that part of their student body fit into this group and wish to organize together.

They have clubs like the following already:
Gay, lesbian, or Whatever (GLOW)
Right to Life
H-Bomb - Freedom of Sexuality group
Religious groups from all spectrums
Political groups

 

So every group on their long list of groups is something they take ownership in? What about the opposing groups like Democrats and Republicans? Or Korean and African? or Christian and Islamic. By recognizing a group, they are recognizing that a portion of their student body identifies with the group. They are in a sense, remaining neutral and allowing for these groups to co-exist.

No I am not. The group is a group that gathers to discuss what they like to do in their private sex lives...hence the what they do in the privacy of their homes. The group is not some big orgy they have every Wednesday night.
If your question is why do they seek approval from Harvard, here is my answer...Because that is what groups at the college are allowed to do and what many of them chose to do. I cannot answer for their personal reasons for wanting the approval of the committee and I am sure that not everyone in the group has the same reasons.
Now a question for you...Why do the religious or ethnic or political groups feel the need to have Harvard accept them as official groups?

 

You apparently miss the entire point here.

No one cares what you do with your genitals in your bedroom or who you do it with, or how many. That isn't the point.

It's the leftist approach that we have to make this public, we have to support it, we have to have clubs and organizations and special rights for it all because if we don't, we're haters, bigots and racists.

Another key portion of this article "... the new, 20-member group will be allowed to apply for grants, openly recruit members and promote their, um, events. "

Grants? Really? Public announcements of a kinky sex get together? Why stop there, let's just do orgies openly in public.

What next, the pedophiles group?

Lefties are like foul, vulgar idiots loudly telling off-color jokes at a party...no class and no decorum.

 

To answer your question...No, I dont think they would officially recognize that one. Why? Because it goes directly against one of the schools beliefs that they are the superior school. Being kinky isnt anything the school probably takes personally.

 

As long as they pick and choose which groups the acknowledge? Well yes. By that measure they are taking ownership. By their admission they have guidelines or rules in the handbook, so one assumes this means some groups can and will be told no. by virtue of that, I believe it is fair to assign ownership in part to them, of the groups they are saying yes to.

Does that somehow not seem fair?

But they are doing it AT Harvard University...with Harvards acknowledgement and approval. A gathering of likeminded students simply talking about sex doesnt need to be a formal group.

I think it's obvious why they are seeking approval...becuase they plan to gather AT Harvard University. not in their homes or private lives. It's right there at face value.

Because they wish to "officially" gather at Harvard. And as stated already in the article, harvard has a handbook and rules as to which groups they wish to recognize. Hence the approval process.

 

If Harvard Deans and faculty don't have an issue with this, why should you care. Even if you did go to the school, they are plenty of clubs that you may like or dislike, this just happens to be one of them. Since it is clear you will not particpate in the club, it has no effect on you.

As far as its reputation, Harvard's proprietors have the choice of their own.

 

Wow, didnt even see THAT part. Yeah...just a group of students in their homes sharing viewpoints.

Even worse than I originally thought. Kinky sex grants now? Cmon guys...those of you defending this, are you still A-OK with this?

 

Harvard is a private institution. You appear to be upset that a group of people decide to get together to talk about something you find offensive- all on private property.

Seriously you seem really hung up on this.

How typical.

A sexual prude who is unable to differentiate between a group of people talking about perfectly legal consensual sex between adults- and illegal sex with children.

That would be me saying since you want Harvard to prevent this sex group from meeting on campus- whats next- you advocating repeal of the Constitution?

Well......and here you are starting a whole thread about sex.

If you hadn't posted it here- hundreds fewer people would have known about this- you are in effect promoting the Harvard sex club.

 

It seems it's just a discussion group, I don't see what the issue is.

 

I dont have a real "issue" with this per se, it's not going to effect me. I only care to the extent that this is a current story that came up. It's not like Im sitting up at night worrying about it or anything. I have alot of friends who attended Harvard, and have always thought of Harvard as one of the pinnacles of education. My original feeling on this story, and statement was that this is being diminished by them choosing to allow fringe freakshow groups like this to gather attention under their name.

It ties Harvard to that Activity.

 

As long as they are grants from Harvard or other private sources- why would I care?

Why would I care whether adults promoting perfectly legal activities are requesting money from private entities?

Why would you care?

 

Which will be legitimized to seek taxpayer funded grants??

No taxpayers are entitled to an opinion?

 

Are they asking for your support? Are they asking for special rights? Why should the Christian groups or womens rights groups or Islamic groups be able to apply for grants or openly recruit members?

 

Stop!!!

Harvard is not funding this group.

 

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/har...-grants-despite-its-317b-tax-exempt-endowment

It's right there. We all know where federal money comes from. I dont want to support Kinky Sex as some kind of Legitimate subclass of people. Keep the (*)(*)(*)(*) to themselves please, or maybe Harvard can stop seeking grants and tax breaks.

 

Isn't Harvard a private University?