Why do Americans like guns so much?

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  1. Archer0915

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    Bike? Small displacement Suzuki
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I support training everyone... yes. I believe that it would be enforceable just as only those who pass tests can drive cars.
     
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    huh. figured you for a harley guy.

    I had a 90cc kawasaki but i sold it before i got killed on it.

    it was green, with no "hello kitty" stickers, btrw.
     
  4. Archer0915

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    Honestly the rag is habit from welding for about 15 years. I am a real nerd man. I did a spreadsheet and calculated what type of milage I needed to get the bike for no extra money a month.

    Harley's get around 40-50 MPG and this one gets about 60.

    I am not a big bike guy. I normally drive my old beat around ranger or my E150 Conversion van. Don't give a crap about milage because insurance is cheap and they are paid for.

    @daniel; found it yet?
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There was a bit of confusion at the Sporting goods store this morning.

    When I was ready to pay for my purchases of a gun, gun powder and bullets the cashier said, "Strip down, facing me."



    Making a mental note to complain to the NRA about the gun registry people running amok, I did just as she had instructed.



    When the hysterical shrieking and alarms finally subsided, I found out that she was referring to my credit card.
     
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    Daniel let me help:

    It is certainly of the last Consequence to a free Country that the Militia, which is its natural Strength, should be kept upon the most advantageous Footing. A standing Army, however necessary it may be at some times, is always dangerous to the Liberties of the People. The Militia is composd of free Citizens.
     
  7. Texsdrifter

    Texsdrifter Well-Known Member

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    Your knowledge of the Texas history is impressive. I have not study that subject since 7th grade when Texas history was a required subject. If I ever finish trying to learn the constitution.(doubtful at the rate I am going) I will have to revisit my native states history.

    I understand that the groups that come were a milita since they were not professional soliders.They were not the constitutional militia of the US. The constitutional militia was used after that The north during the civil war used the constitutional militia to swell ranks from, I believe it was less than 20,000 enlisted to over 2.5 million. The south as well relied on militia, obiviously not by the US constitution, to around 1 million. The southern states during reconstruction used state militia usually made up of former slaves. The militia became popular again in the 1880's when the national guard came to be by its own creation.(still researching) During the Spanish-American war the regular military prevented the national guard from participating.(have seen other reason) That led to "The Dick Act" or the militia act of 1903. That designated the National guard as the organized militia. The rest of the militia became the unorganized militia. The supreme court in 1918 Arver vs US affrimed the draft. Since the raise armies clause does not restrict armies, like the militia clause resricts the milita. It has become the prefered choice.

    Sorry if it is mumbled try to make it short. If you see anything you or anybody else finds inaccurate please let me know. I am still looking into the history.


    While I understand your point I disagree. The US constitution gives the congress the ability to use the militia to enforce the laws of the union, supress insurrections, and repel invasions. The use of the military on US soil is controversial and has not been looked at in-depth by the supreme court to my knowledge. I see the military and militia having different roles.


    The national guard is only a part of the militia when not under control of the federal government. It is considered regular forces when called up. It is the organized militia when under state control, however the unorganized militia still exists by statutory law. It also is recognized in supreme court decisions as every able-body male. The 2nd still protects the militia even though it was recently found to protect the individual right as well. That only adds protections to the 2nd it does not eliminate the milita's protection.
     
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    It's not.
    The nra relies on its useful idiots to keep pushing that nonsense.
    The fact is that only about one third of US households have guns, and of those, the vast number of guns are held by a few hoarders who are typically paranoid angry white guys.
    The gun nuts are losing the argument because they are on the wrong side of history yet again.
    But then, reactionaries usually are.

    http://www.cnn.co.uk/2012/07/31/politics/gun-ownership-declining/index.html
     
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    US gun deaths, approximately 10,000
    UK gun deaths, approximately 35
     
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    You are familiar with the word "facile"?
     
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    Hint; to keep an eye on the crooks and n'er-do-wells. If you have nothing to feel guilty about and are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear-unless you suffer from terminal Big Brother paranoia, of course.
    Oh, and there are no cameras 'on every street'. I know Americans are prone to hysteria and hyperbole, but do try to stick to facts.

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    Yes, it's a Latin word meaning 'easily'.
     
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    Thread: Why do Americans like guns so much?

    Cause we can.

    Gun Appreciation Day

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    There is more to it than that, but good start. Now, do you see how it applies?
     
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    LMAO...You can't help but laugh at this sort of inbred stupidity.
    A bunch of reactionary idiots dressed up like old west types pretending to still be relevant.
     
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    sorry, surfer dude, but self protection and the protection of one's family and property is neither stupid or irrelevant. Its exactly what has made this country great. Its called freedom. If self determination is too hard for you then maybe you need to stay in europe and let the nanny state change your adult diapers for you.

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    sorry, surfer dude, but self protection and the protection of one's family and property is neither stupid or irrelevant. Its exactly what has made this country great. Its called freedom. If self determination is too hard for you then maybe you need to stay in europe and let the nanny state change your adult diapers for you.
     
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    You call that small?
    Mine is a yamaha adventure bike in a 250.. that's small!
     
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    Pretty silly, but these represent serfs guarding the monarch.
     
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    Mmm talk about pretense of relevance. The Brits wrote the book on it.
     
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    Posse's in general.

    It is exactly what they used to defend themselves, just as they did during the LA riots.

    By the rights endowed them to keep and bear arms in order to mount that defense.
     
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    Where did you get the idea gun deaths were the only violent deaths or that all gun deaths are violent deaths, most are people taking their own lives.

    My statement stands as posted. The UK has more violent deaths than the US, so where do you feel safer as you asked?

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    The symbolism escapes you?
     
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    Also...as is facile interpretation... includes justifiable homicides, a positive social good, and suicides, people who chose one way but would be dead if they chose another.
     
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    That is interesting; because I thought they provided a "moral" example of wellness of regulation.
     
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    Every household in Switzerland is REQUIRED to have a gun in it's possession. I have one question and that is; why don't peeps in Switzerland go crazy and shoot innocents? Or do we not hear of such events? I guess I should google it.
     
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    Kinda blows a few of the moronic liberal gun grabber talking points out of the water, huh?
     
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    In my completely subjective opinion, it may be because militia chics insist we get well regulated, as often as may be required to be entitled to the "character of a well regulated militia".
     

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