Why do Americans like guns so much?

Not to mention posse comitatus which they keep ignoring.

 

Funny really. I was "BORN IN THE USA"! I was raised in the USA. I lived it and breathed it. I have seen this country moved to something that is not the US.

Where the hell do those that are from other places get off telling me how I need to live? You can keep your asses over there and we will stay here.

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What is that?

 

Many of them are european and had to deal with the communist threat a little closer than we did. And the Americans who think that the military would turn on the people are young.

 

The Posse Comitatus Act is the United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) that was passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction and was updated in 1981. Its intent (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) was to limit the powers of Federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce the State laws. Contrary to popular belief, the Act does not prohibit members of the United States Armed Forces from exercising Law enforcement agency powers within a State, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order"; it requires that any authority to do so must exist within the United States Constitution or Act of Congress (which it currently does not except under the Insurrection Act).{Federalist 29 (Hamilton, 178} Any use of the Armed Forces under either Title 10/Active Duty or Title 10/Reserves at the direction of the President will offend the Constitutional Law also known as Public Law prohibiting such action unless declared by the President of the United States and approved by Congress. Any infringement will be problematic for political and legal reasons.

The Bill/Act as modified in 1981 refers to the Armed Forces of the United States. It does not apply to the National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor. The U.S. Coast Guard, which operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is also not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act, primarily because the Coast Guard has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.

 

Proportionally the UK experiences the same murder rate. The only difference is that it mainly happens through stabbing, smashing of half emptied bottles into your head and even fists.

 

Thanks. Noting either way there but good info.

 

Liberals are passive aggressive. As a group they want anyone that does not fall in line with their collective ideology to be eradicated. Yet as individuals they lack the stomach to enforce their genocidal ideologies. The military is their dream of robotic marauders that will do their bidding while they hide under the covers. To them you are not human. They are the ones that spit on you as you arrive back in country after a tour of duty. You are simply a despicable being carrying a gun that will do exactly as they bid.
This entire thread is proof of that. One side says they're willing to stand up and fight for their rights.
The other side says, No we'll have the military kill you.
Not once on this forum have I seen a liberal say "I will take up arms and fight you back" No, they always chose someone else to fight and die for them. Thats You.

 

Great story. I thought that crap ended with Vietnam.

 

Yes, and as a serving military person you're also duty-bound to follow orders. If you don't then you get thrown out. In time of of conflict not doing so may also get you shot-by those whose orders you failed to obey.

 

So long as those orders are lawful and don't violate the oath.

 

No, it does not. Proportionally (that is a per capita rate per head of population), America has 4.8 murders per 100,000 of population, compared with 1.2 in Great Britain. I make that 4x more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country

 

You're duty bound to follow LAWFUL orders. There's a difference.

 

He will not read up and refuses to understand that.

If there is no military objective and it is in violation of the individuals oath, attacking not defending the constitution, that it may be paramount to treason.

 

It was before my time of course, but could you comment on Kent State, in this connection?

 

This.

I would also submit that you should not commit arson, and assault first responders with rocks... and destroying equipment that would be used to put out that fire.
You should comply with lawful orders from the civil authority to disperse... not fight them and rebuke that lawful authority.
It was believed that National Guard troops had been sniped by protesters, with rifle fire.

And yet still this was a disgrace, and an atrocity.

 

If it came down to that, you betcha. I ain't lettin' no secess yahoos take my country.

 

Your country?

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Your country?

 

And how much of that is due to gun control? Not a lot seemingly, since it was that way before gun control. There's no correalation.

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How many people in the government can tell the difference?