NRA To Score Gun Deal

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell 'ya what little man...walk in my door uninvited, act in any way aggressive, and make me even think my beautiful hot a$$ wife is is danger.

    Then if I somehow do not break you with the three foot long trailer wrench before impaling you with a broad tip form my compound at the top of the stairs....all you need to deal with is the Glock I just drew, and the .38 she has handy while she waits behind the desk until someone tries to open the door without letting her know it is me.


    Good luck with that....and do not assume gun owners are afraid.
     
  2. eleison

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    "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"...

    People that have been "pissing on the constitution" are the reasons why we still have our 2nd amendment rights. Just look at the anti-smoking movement.... Those that want to take our freedoms because they think we are stupid (and there are some stupid people out there), start out small... before you know it, the entire rights are taken away.

    Also, if a person suffers from mental illness, why can't he get help without risk of losing his 2nd amendment rights? Who knows, if Adam Lanza was given more help, maybe he wouldn't have went on a shooting spree. We need to find ways of better giving help to mentally disturbed people instead of scaring them away.

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  3. CRUE CAB

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    Oh, take a breath Rambo.
    Iam not a criminal. I would never go into someones house and am always respectful of others family members.
    But I refuse to sit idely by and allow my rights to go out the window.
    Just how hard are you going to fight when the cops come for those guns? Gonna have that Glock cleaned lubed and ready for battle?
     
  4. JoeSixpack

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    It won't stop anybody from getting their hands on a gun or killing somebody if they really want too. Nothing will.

    I suggested it to see if he is really an advocate of gun control against criminals and the mentally disturbed or just a typical gun grabber.

    As of yet not one politician has suggested anything that would make it "harder" for a criminal, or mentally disturbed from getting a gun through what would be normal legal channels, like a gun show as an example. Try reading what I am saying/asking and stop acting like an idiotic over reactionary.

    Obviously you are unaware that a person who takes certain drugs, it is the doctors responsibility to identify those patients to motor vehicle so their licenses can be properly suspended. This is no different. It also appears you are completely oblivious to the standard practice of showing ID to purchase alcohol or tobacco which makes it "harder" for minors to obtain such items.

    Same principle, no required registration, no need to inform the government each and every time you make a legal purchase if you are already a law abiding citizen. Where is the logic flawed other than the fact we both know that no gun legislation is going to stop someone from killing somebody if they are set on doing so?
     
  5. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed...you are not being harassed ( read, proving you are not a threat), you are being a law abiding citizen.....once this becomes law.

    Do you truly think trying to stop those who might use these weapons inappropriately is a Bad Idea?
     
  6. Serfin' USA

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    Agreed. Although, I don't think having committed a felony should preclude gun ownership unless it was a violent crime.
     
  7. JoeSixpack

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    I'm not against reasonable regulations, I am against prohibition and the government assuming everybody is under suspicion and therefore guilty before the fact.
     
  8. CRUE CAB

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    Arizona, Colorado, Sandy Hook shooters were never precieved as a threat before they blew a gasket and took out all thier frustrations on the world around them.

    So when are we going to ban fertilizer, diesel fuel, knives, box cutters, rocks, gas and sticks and ball bats.
    People use all those as weapons every day.
     
  9. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope...I am pro constitution, but not stupid.

    I am armed because I am afraid of stupid people, who want what I have.

    I am not ignorant enough to think I would stand a chance against the most powerful military force this plane has ever known.\



    If the United States Gov't decides to rescind my freedom....I'm skrewed. Fortunately I can manage rational thought which makes it clear this is an an unlikely scenario.
     
  10. 10A

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    Colorado doesn't have a "guns show loophole". Didn't stop James Holmes. Didn't stop Duane Roger Morrison.

    Never mind that the US has open borders. Ask Eric Holder about straw men arming Mexican drug cartels, not the NRA.
     
  11. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope...I am pro constitution, but not stupid.

    I am armed because I am afraid of stupid people, who want what I have.

    I am not ignorant enough to think I would stand a chance against the most powerful military force this plane has ever known.\



    If the United States Gov't decides to rescind my freedom....I'm skrewed. Fortunately I can manage rational thought which makes it clear this is an an unlikely scenario.
     
  12. CRUE CAB

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    I do. If I can go through life avoiding being a felon, anyone can.
     
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    You think only the Republican mindset has changed? My grandmother was born in 1910. She died in 2006. She voted the first time in 1928 for Al Smith. She voted Democrat all the way until 2000. I asked her why she had a change of heart. "I don't recognize my party anymore".

    They have both changed. The GOP establishment is progressive. The Democratic party has been cannibalized by progressives.

    Old school is dead.
     
  14. CRUE CAB

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    Its only unlikely if people are vigilant and keep up with what lawmakers are trying to do.
    Stop paying attention and you have what we have now.
    No one cared who ran the country for decades, now we have what we have now.
    NOW people are starting to pay attention. Now people see how they lose rights. Now people are seeing what thier children are being taught in schools.
    NOW. May be too late.
     
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    I don't want to enable DMV to be responsible for this. These are the same corrupt bureaucrats who pass out handicap placards to able-bodied family and friend. They might give junior, who everyone in the family knows for certain is two sandwiches short of a picnic, an "able-bodied and mind" stamp.
     
  16. CRUE CAB

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    Coward? Hahahahaha, you kill me dude.
    Iam a coward because I am not abou to roll over and allow my rights to be tampered with?
    Looks like I am anything but a coward.
    Tell ya what, how about everybody get behind sensible crime measures.
    Keep felons in jail for thier whole bit.
    Make jail as uncomfortable as possible.
    Hot rack the inmates, three shifts in and out of the bunks like aboard ship in the Navy.
    Let them clean ditches, dig ditches, work road crews, chain gangs.
    Kill? Excecuted with in a year.
    Rape, life.
    Child molest, life.
    No exceptions.
    Need more jails, build them.
    Make crime punishment hurt.
    Visitors? One a year.
    Congecal visits, nope.
    Library? Nope, had your whole life to read. Now you want to read?
    Internet? Nope. Its for free people.
    TV? Nope, no time for that. Sleep, eat, work.
    Now that is jail.
     
  17. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah...would be nice wouldn't it.

    Did I mention trying to do what seems possible, in an attempt to have effect?
     
  18. JoeSixpack

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    There are no absolute for sure's, especially when government/human beings are involved but are reasonable precautionary measures that can be taken and do make some sense anyway.

    If you wish to be an irrational anarchist then that is your disability.
     
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    All ready happening in that bastion of liberal holy horse s#!t NY.

    http://www.infowars.com/new-york-po...ms-from-people-takin-anti-anxiety-medication/
     
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    Perfectly said. There is no legislation to allow police officers to have access to a data base of those who are not allowed to have a gun, why?
     
  21. Serfin' USA

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    That seems to contradict the idea of time served. It's like removing a felon's right to vote.

    If you've completed your sentence, why should you continue to be punished?

    When the crime applies to a right (like a violent felony with guns or voting fraud with voting), then further restrictions make sense. When the crime doesn't, then it seems like the policy assumes that the person hasn't finished their sentence in reality.

    In the same vein of innocent until proven guilty, a completed sentence should usually mean rights are restored.
     
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    Basically because it makes too much sense, if that were the goal that is.
     
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    I dont care, if you cannot behave in a resonable manner. Interact with the rest of the population. Not prey on your fellow man.
    You do not need to be owning guns.
    Gun ownership is a responcibilty, you obviously are not a responcible person if you cant stay out of jail.
    Plus its not a further punishment, its part of the punishment from the get go.
    Everyone knows felons are disbarred from owning guns in our society. Its not like people figure it out after they have been convicted.
    I have no, zero, none, nada sympathy for a felon. Period. No if ands or buts.

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    It makes no sense. You want any cop for any reason to look up your medical records? Make his own conclusions about it? Act upon information he barely understands?
    Cops are not doctors.
     
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    Oh, you're upset *plays smallest fiddle in the world*

    I and every republican I know supports the republican blocking of gun control legislation.

    be ashamed and upset. We (I and the vast majority of the republican party and some democrats) don't care about how you feeel.
     
  25. JoeSixpack

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    You cannot be that stupid? It doesn't allow access to your medical records, it simply shows there is a restriction on your license that will allow the officer to identify you as a sanity risk or a criminal.

    They are already required to disclosed to the Dept of Motor Vehicle for conditions restricting your ability to get a drivers license. My mother's doctor sent a letter to the DMV saying her "condition" limited her from obtaining a DL, and they (DMV) sent her a letter informing her her current license had been suspended until further notice (actually it was indefinite) because she could be a threat to the public behind the wheel, same with people who have epilepsy that cannot be controlled, etc...
     

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