They're finally doing it. Mississippi law could mean jailtime for miscarriages

Once again, seems like it's absolutely terrible when pregnant women are being exposed to a little second-hand smoke against their will that could possibly harm their little baby— but only when the woman wants her baby! Otherwise it's her body, she can do whatever she wants, and a little chain smoking is no big deal.

 

Either abort, or dont do drugs. I would be enraged if I found out my mother knowingly used drugs during pregnancy, doubly so if it caused me some damage. Drugs during pregnancy is one of the worst forms of child abuse, and not only child abuse but also adult abuse, because the effects may last whole life. Its not even a pro-choice and pro-life matter, because drugs during pregnancy harm actual real people, not potential lives.

Now, it is an open question whether anyone could establish cause and effect beyond reasonable doubt here, so Id rather she be prosecuted under chemical endangerment laws, not homicide.

 

She does not care because she condones abortion throughout NINE MONTHS. Don't you think that alone is completely barbaric? Where is the humanity in her position?
What do you condone?

 

They will determine this right? Isn't this an ongoing case? I would hope that they have autopsy results from the child. She gave birth past the legal cut off of abortion...did she not?
But all this does not matter anyway to you...so I don't know why you just don't make the comment that...viable or not...drugs or not....SHE HAD THE RIGHT TO KILL.

Just say it...

 

Oh boy would I like to make comment on this one. LMAO

Drugs are child abuse for the life in the womb you say......but abortion is not child abuse? LMAO Killing a perfectly healthy fetus is ok. But damn if a woman can't do drugs. Do drugs to possibly even kill the life inside.
LMAO

Gonna file this with all the others. If a woman owns here body...she has the right to do WHAT SHE WANTS WITH IT...SO SAYS THE PRO-ABORT COMMUNITY. That should include abortion on demand...at any time for any reason. You have no right as a pro-abort to tell any woman what she can and cant do. What gives you this right?

Oh I can't wait to hear your response to this....LOL

 

I share your inability to withhold my expletives but not for the same reason. Everyone should be outraged at this. But anyone that is outraged at the legal system and not the..... METH HEAD who overdosed her child..... is a full (*)(*)(*)(*)ing retard. That is the only way to even word this. There is no more delicate way to say it.

What kind of thinking person views the dope fiend as the victim here? I mean, the amount of pure mental gymnastics someone has to go through in order to reach that conclusion is just mind-blowing. You might as well have called O.J. Simpson the victim too.

 

He only thinks life outside of the womb has value. Thus a pregnant woman smoking is bad because the baby will continue to suffer after it comes out. But if the baby never comes out (at least not in one piece ), then it doesn't matter; it's as if the baby never existed at all.

 

On second thought, that post has totally changed my mind.

Meth addicts should be required to have children.

 

a natural abortion is natural, a dr induced abortion is dr induced

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Legislation does not stop abortion I know because it is illegal (technically) here. You end up with a choice of EITHER making the laws so tight that every woman who has a miscarriage is likely to be charged or no one is ever charged

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But this is not about late term abortions so sorry cannot derail this thread

 

Nor are some pro lifers. Abortion is okay when its them, but not okay for anyone else. That ain't consistancy.

 

If a pregnant woman drives a car and fails to give way and the accident results in the death of the fetus, should she be charged with murder?

If a pregnant woman drives a car and the accident isn't her fault, should she be charged with murder anyway because driving a car is dangerous and has the potential to kill?

What else would you like to control?

 

Yes, thats what I think, except only life with sufficiently developed brain has value, not outside the womb, but the conclusion is more or less the same.

I like to base my morals on the golden rule, "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself". So how would I feel if I was aborted? I would not ever feel anything, consequences would be no different for me than being "contracepted". But how would I feel if my mother used drugs? I would be enraged and possibly suffering for life.

 

The reason for CM's anger is....this is the kind of extremism that just RUINS the "image" the "pro-lifers" are trying to create in the body politic.

That they are NOT a bunch of looneys who want to jail women for even having a miscarriage. When...they are.

 

It's a State issue, not a Federal issue.

 

They said the same thing in Mississippi about voting and drinking from a public water fountain too.

 

It's not a Federal issue, it's not a state issue, it's not a county or city issue. It's PERSONAL. It's an individual, personal issue, not the business of government at any level.

 

The meth head is being used to try and further law into Abortion land. She lost her baby for her own actions. Does the Right need to exploit her too?

 

This is not premeditated murder. Accidents happen. Taking a drug to get high or whatever is NOT an accident.

What else would I like to control. The laws in this country. I would ship all the illegals back to their homelands...and I would overturn Roe...my first day in office.

Does that come as any surprise?

 

Your morals? LMAO

How would I feel if you had been aborted? LMAO

It's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS IF YOUR MOTHER WANTED TO USE DRUGS. How dare you want to control her actions...its her body and her decision.

 

It's good to see you have joined the pro-choice side churchmouse.

 

Just once I would like to see a discussion on abortion that did not allow any of the all or nothing bunch to speak, since from my experience Most Americans believe that abortion should be allowed as a choice during early development stage when it is still considered to be a fetus and not a baby and late abortions only under unusual circumstances and only by a doctors orders. To those that want abortions untill the last second of development or those that want all abortions and even contraceptives banned, Neither of you will ever get you way, the American People will never allow it.

 

Pretty much.

 

That you'd be not only a dictator....but a xenophobic dictator? Not a bit.

 

If keeping abortion legal is a utilitarian decision, meaning it benefits society to keep unwanted children from being born and becoming wards of the state...then suffice to say prosecuting mothers who use drugs and alcohol while pregnant is also a utilitarian decision. Again, it benefits society to keep children who will be born and not aborted...as healthy as possible. Ever heard of fetal-alcohol syndrome, or babies born with HIV? or babies born with drug addictions...or babies born with disabilities as a result of drug use by the mother during pregnancy?.... Who pays for their medical care....answer....we do, the taxpayers. Those of us who actually pay taxes that is.

If the pro-choice are going to use a utilitarian decision making process regarding the issue of maintaining legal abortions ...they can't have their cake and eat it too regarding the issue of mothers who abuse their bodies with alcohol and narcotics while pregnant, as it does no good for society to be forced to pay for the medical care of a child with fetal alcohol syndrome or addicted to narcotics.

I find the "faux" outrage over charging the mother...amusing....I'll give you that.
Your hypocrisy is duly noted.