The Pathology of Leftist Denial

Sure, whatever you say. Let us know when you have something besides uninformed speculation to buttress your asinine comments. It would be a welcome change from your petty sniping and whining.

 

An outright lie. So petty.

 

Ethereal, do you think an alliance with left anarchists is possible?

 

I agree with essentially every word you wrote here. American Democrats want us to believe regulation exists to protect people from the excesses of corporations, and while some level of regulation does do that to some extent. The vast majority of regulation exists to promote the interests of capitalists. Corporations lobby for regulation which protects them from competition. A regulation or massive amounts of red tape can be dealt with by a massive corporations with large capital reserves and a giant team of lawyers. However a small business or potential start up will be put off by such regulation, because they don't have those things.

Where we move apart, is that you believe corporatism is something distinct from capitalism. It is not. Capital and the state are inexorably linked. Capitalism requires government intervention to perpetuate itself. Capital requires government to protect its property (both tangible and intellectual), to limit its liability, to bail it out (capitalism is inherently unstable), it requires government to protect overseas investment, to create and regulate markets, to regulate away competition, etc, etc, etc. When you understand this, we will be on the exact same page.

 

No, you are just another presumptuous partisan who has no clue what I believe or what I will do in such an event. I favor the complete abolition of the state and of political parties. I owe allegiance to no party, to no state, and to no collective "society". I favor the immediate release of EVERY non-violent drug and sex offender currently imprisoned in the criminal "justice" system, the immediate withdrawal of all non-naval and non-diplomatic elements from every foreign country, the immediate dissolution of the central banking system and the monetary monopoly which serves to rob the working classes via inflation, and the devolution of power to the PEOPLE. I favor a peaceful, populist revolution of enlightenment and morality, something the degenerates in the progressive-socialist axis couldn't comprehend if they tried. So please spare us your petty assumptions and partisan rhetoric because it doesn't apply here.

 

It was a joke.... I don't believe education is socialist indoctrination.

 

Only if they operate under a purely voluntary paradigm as we do. But their reliance on direct democracy as the means of administrating an economy means that private production and profit may be subject to the whims of a mob, which is a dangerous and unstable proposition.

 

Marxism, at least of the revolutionary sort, engenders interventionist government. We agree completely. I am not a marxist. I am a left-libertarian. Despite what the highly intelligent right wingers at this forum will have you believe, libertarianism was ALWAYS a term used to describe the left. It was only coopted by the right and capitalist propagandists in the the 1960s and 1970s.

 

The sad thing is that if the leftist cadre cared even ONE BIT about GOOD GOVERNMENT, they could take the present system and make it work far better and far more efficiently, with less waste, fraud, redundancy, and oppression. But they are not about good government, just MORE GOVERNMENT.

 

Alright alright.....I took a few moments to chill out and shake that whole Zimmerman thread vibe, because that whole thing has me wound up......

At any rate...you underestimate my ability for introspection. Comments you made one day were one of the things that caused me to evaluate whether or not I could call myself a "conservative" anything nowadays. If the Eisenhower GOP still existed, I would be one, but since the term "conservative" has been taken over by pseudo Libertarians, Tea Partiers, and evangelicals, I guess the definition of a "conservative" has just changed too much.

However, I have never tried to portray myself as an Independent. I don't like the term because Republicans like Bill O'Reilly uses it, and other use it too much when they just don't want to admit they're righties or lefties.

So...I am's what I am's and I is what I is...so chill.

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Apparently I struck a nerve, if you actually had to edit this simple inadequate retort.

 

That's the big question. Would they be willing to accept that a large amount of people in a free society would not want to live in their communes? If they would an anti-state alliance could be possible.
So what's more likely, to convert a left anarchist to an anarcho capitalist, or a conservative to an anarchist?

 

I'm a peace loving populist agrarian technologist.

 

Ahh yes...the old "Love it or leave it!" argument...truly anti-ethical to any patriot!

 

You might think you're a "Jeffersonian", but every position I've ever heard you hold is the same as the GOP platform

 

And what part of the GOP platform is any different than a Jeffersonian one? Remember, most of our Founders were era Conservatives.

 

Ayuh,.... Somebody once said,.... If yer not a Liberal when yer young, you've got no heart,....

If yer not a Conservative by 30, ya got no brains,...

 

Patriotic Americans don't spell honor "honour".

 

Quit trolling. You think to get a rise out of him by calling him a Republican when he's not. What's next? Will you spread rumors that he has cooties? Don't be a five year old.

Republicans are for global intervention and global war-mongering. He is not.
Republicans want the drug war. He does not.
Republicans want gays to go back in the closet. He does not.
Republicans want women to vote for them but then don't kick out people who say rape is birth control. He is not that.

Republicans are puritans just like Democraps. They just want to interfere just in different areas. Between the two of them we're victims of DP.

 

Stuff it. I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. In fact the moment we landed in this country I was off to a wonderful start in the Detroit ghetto. I hit the books every night, had no fun, didn't get into trouble with everyone else in the neighborhood and finally got to where I am today. It is not greed to want to keep what I made or revel in the fruits of MY hard work.

 

the point is that my views haven't changed, the labels have. the truth is i'm neither a liberal nor a conservative, i'm merely an anti-authoritarian. in my youth conservatism still held sway and those in power used their authority to press forward their agenda. now the liberal establishment is firmly in place and they are using their authority to warp the fabric of society, creating their perverse version of utopia.

neither side is completely right or completely wrong. if we could take the best of each everyone could be as close to satisfied as is humanly possible, but this never happens. we should be able to allow the wealthy their liberty, complete with full ownership of the fruits of their labors, and offer the poor real opportunity, but the game simply won't let this occur. what happens is we end up with the worst coming out of each side in a mad rush to cater to the lowest common denominator. reason takes a back seat in the hustle of corrupt politicians for the real currency of the political arena - power.

people are weird critters, they tend to behave in the manner expected of them. when our leaders treat us as children, we act childishly. when we are treated with respect, we tend to be more respectful of others. our political class now treats us as uninformed fools, feeding us lies and half-truths. how do you think the majority of us will act?

 

What's so great about conservatives? From my perspective they contribute to this (*)(*)(*)(*)ery of injustice every time they're put in office, as well.

 

Of course its not. Why should you have to pay for our Govt.

 

....to rob you of your labor and choices "for your own good"


why indeed.

 

Those robbers! Imagine thinking that people should pay for a government.

 

Yes.... "fair shares" versus less than zero (EITC)...*for votes*