The Pathology of Leftist Denial

The left is in denial of what they really are. They can't admit to themselves that their ideology is based upon intimidation, theft, and coercion.

They intimidate you with threats of violence; they steal your money after you've earned it; and if you have the courage to resist their criminal behavior, they use coercion to oppress you.

Why won't you control freaks just let people live in peace? Are you so disdainful of human liberty that you can't just live and let live?

 

As if taxes weren't high enough already. What is the government doing with all this tax money??
I have a feeling that higher tax rates will never be enough, even if it was 100%, hypothetically. The progressive left talks about helping the poor. But when we look at what they actually do when they get their hands on all this money, it's just more expensive government projects, new shiny public buildings, more bureaucrats hired onto the payroll. Only a tiny fraction of these tax increases ever trickle down to the poor.

Conservatives lose not because they are against lower taxes, but because they are ideologically against redistribution of wealth, even though the actual amount getting into the hands of the poor is rather trivial compared to everything else.

Another thing leftists are in denial about is that they need to create poverty and unemployment to stay in power. They do this by continually importing impoverished immigrants from outside.

 

it's strange that the very sentiments expressed in the op made me a liberal in my youth. all most of us really wanted was to be left in peace to live our lives. now that i am much older and i really want nothing more, i find myself branded conservative. life is odd.

 

I used to give people the benefit of the doubt, but now I have to conclude that leftist ideology is just based on pure power lust. They love being in control and they will say and do almost anything to justify getting more. Whether it's "more" taxes or "more" regulations, the left is perpetually grasping for "more" control over people's lives. Of course, "more" will never be enough for them, because power-lust is just a way for people to fill an emotional or spiritual void of some sort. It's like a drug for the left.

 

Many conservative politicians are not exactly innocent of deceiving their voters either. Whether it comes to immigration, or bank bail outs.

 

I am on the left. My ideology is exponentially more in line with liberty than yours will ever be. I am a libertarian socially, but I have not been duped into believing capitalist propaganda. I understand that capitalism and limited government are antithetical. I understand that capitalism and real liberty are antithetical. You don't want government to control things at the federal level, and that is as far as your quest for liberty seems to go. You don't mind corporate hierarchy and control, and don't seem to mind it at the state level either. So spare us your righteous indignation. It isn't justified.

 

Another thread by a 1% apologist (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about taxes, which are proportionately the lowest in 60 years.

More is never enough.

 

Unfortunately, many of your liberal contemporaries were brainwashed by subversive socialist elements within academia. The entire public education system (aside from perhaps the hard sciences) has turned into a slush fund for socialist propagandists and academics who spend their careers indoctrinating the youth into leftist ideology. That is why there are so many people graduating from college who can't find gainful employment. Their heads are filled with useless socialist propagandizing and indoctrination, and socialism turns people into amoral, unproductive losers, by design, in most instances.

 

Most so-called "conservatives" are themselves authoritarian collectivists who see the state as a tool for enforcing their own morality. But this thread is not about them, it's about leftists, progressives, and socialists that use the basest forms of theft, intimidation, and coercion to achieve their subjective moral ends. Let's stay on topic, shall we?

 

Maybe if you had a bit of "socialist indoctrination" otherwise known as education, you would not so easily fall for capitalist indoctrination.

 

You guys ban big gulps. Nuff said.

 

I'll just leave this here.

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Do you believe in my Liberty to choose what type of light bulbs I want? Do you believe in my Liberty to not have to rely on someone else to decide where half of the money I earn goes?

 

I don't make arbitrary distinctions between "social" and "economic" liberty. Liberty is liberty and I support it categorically and unconditionally. It's really not that hard to figure out.

 

Who are these people? The Republican/independent Michael Bloomberg? Or are you referencing the corporatist centrists that make up the majority of the Democratic party. Otherwise a nonsensical post free of substance, like 99.99% of posts by right wingers at this forum these days.

 

I don't care what light bulbs you want. Nor is that a relevant issue you should be concerning yourself with. That may be a symptom of a deeply flawed system, but it is so tangential to anything important, you should probably turn your attention to something of importance. Like the fact that the government has set up a vast surveillance state, or that we are turning into a semi-police state, or the 10,000 other issues of more importance.

 

You understand wrongly, then.

Capitalism - true free markets without any intervention for any offense that is not directly usurping the rights of an individual - has not been seen for over a century. When it still existed, it was the best and most effective economy the world had ever seen.

"Real liberty?" You've been convinced by your masters that freedom is slavery.

 

Liberty is not liberty. It is that sort of black and white statement, which a bit of "socialist indoctrination" would have caused you to challenge. Also, I don't care about that sort of thing. I care about the fact that a capitalist system engenders interventionist government and requires interventionist government to perpetuate itself. One cannot rationally support both limited government and capitalism once they understand this.

 

All liberty is important, whether it is where your money goes or where you information goes.

 

"True Free markets" are an absurd fantasy. They have never existed and never will, at least certainly not in the context of a capitalist system. Free market capitalism is a pretty story told to fill the heads of people, in order to make them ignore the true nature of capitalism. Seeing as how capitalism and free markets have never existed at the same time, free markets are at best not an element of capitalism, and more likely capitalism is directly opposed to their very existence.

 

Capitalism supports itself indefinitely - you obviously have been quite fully indoctrinated, yourself, to not know this already.

Quote of the day: "Liberty is not liberty" by frodly.

Thank you - you've just proven that you've been deceived by your INDOC machine that calls itself the Federal government of the United States.

 

Another post by a DNC propagandist who dedicates his entire forum existence to justifying theft, coercion, and intimidation, not to mention the BUSH BAILOUTS and QE, two massive forms of CORPORATE WELFARE that go directly the "1%" you allegedly hate so much. Hypocrisy, it's what's for breakfast.

 

Impressive. In only four sentences, you've managed to use two of the only three tools in the entire left wing toolbox - letters I and N of the S.I.N. tactics. Ignoring the facts. And name-calling. The only thing you didn't do was shift the subject. Will that be next? So that you can complete the trifecta?

 

All liberty may be important, but all liberty is not equally important. The world creates natural impositions and limitations on our liberty, what we should do as politically conscious people is decide how best to mitigate those impositions and limitations.

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Would you care to address anything substantively?

 

I have plenty of education. It's called "math" and "science". You should try it sometime.