study- women prefer shaven men over beards why?

Feminist programming? WTF?

 

Actually, the military (and fire fighting) requires shaving in order for gas masks/breathing masks to fit correctly. Beards make it so that the masks don't
seal correctly.

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A grown beard isn't scratchy. It's only scratchy for a couple of weeks.

 

My wife likes my beard as well, and that's all that matters. When we met, I had a beard. I shaved it off in our second year of marriage. Grew it right back, as she didn't caren't for my clean-shaven self. I won't do that again.

 

Clean shaven exudes trust, for some reason. That's why you rarely see politicians with facial hair. It also goes for sales professionals.

 

I think most of these beard criticisms are based on stubble or half-grown beards, not on full beards, which become soft. As my wife said, once you go beard, you never go back.

 

Everyone isn't so "wrinkly" and there are skills one must have with a razor, to use it properly. (I use clippers.)

 

Clippers, and a steady hand, bro.

 

True there are practical reasons for shaving, but honestly unless things have changed if soldiers in the field were hit with a gas attack right now their first issue would be the fact that they don't have their masks on them rather than shaving.

 

The military requires shaving because it is easier to maintain and keep clean out on the battle field. It also interferes with the proper fit of a gas mask. It also falls under the category of taking away a persons individualism, and insures a compliance at all time attitude among tools of the government.

 

The thing is, with a beard, the mask doesn't seal, making it just like they don't have them on. That said, I bet stubble doesn't interfere much, but a full beard does.

 

You've listed many practical reasons why we had to shave our heads and didn't have beards. Some of them don't make much sense though such as head control. If you are wearing a helmet you can be controlled with it (unless you're (*)(*)(*)(*)ing around and don't actually have the thing secure), but yes even getting more stubble in can cause issue. I know my PCs would get much more difficult to wear, indicating that it was time to buzz my head again. Unfortunately Korea was the only place I really got to wear them, (*)(*)(*)(*)ing gay berets. Preventing lice and fleas is a good thing as yes, long periods without showers are expected, and the NBC thing, well like I said above the first concern is the lack of a gas mask while you're out on patrol.

As for uniformity of dress, no (*)(*)(*)(*), that was my point about looking professional. Maybe things have changed since 2002-2006 while I was in but we used to be required to look professional in garrison. It was part of being a soldier. Luckily I was usually in "field units" rather than "garrison units" (yes there is no such thing!) so the dress code wasn't strictly enforced. We still had to have atleast a high brush shine and make an effort with our uniform, but it wasn't like the JSA where we had to have pressed uniforms and spit shined boots (oddly enough we were not only "in front of them all" but we were also a tourist destination). In most units however it made no sense to iron out some sharp creases and put on a spit shine so you could go out the field and (*)(*)(*)(*) up your uniform. It's not like those creases are going to let you cut the enemy while you blind them with your boots. In any case if you don't think looking professional is a major issue in the military then perhaps it's you who has never served. There's a reason the hair standards are more than "whatever doesn't break the seal" and prevent the enemy from grabbing your head (which again, helmet defeats the point). It's not like you can have a mini-mohawk that doesn't violate the height regulation of a high and tight.

 

I get that, I'm saying that the first problem however is the lack of a mask. Unless there is considered to be a NBC threat the mask stays at base.

 

There are military "Rules", Regulations, and Traditions,.... then there the things people in the military actually DO.

In the Air Force, it is a requirement, when an enlisted person approaches and talks to an officer, they need to formally salute, wait upon the reply salute before continuing.

Failure to do so will land you in big trouble, if you pass an officer at the BX, or the theater, or in the Admin office complex. On the Flightline, Saluting an officer will get you derided as a newbie and told to cease trying to get the officer killed!

You see, we learned early on in Vietnam, enforcing the saluting rule on the flightline allows a distant sniper to confirm who the officers and pilots are, compared to the enlisted, and shoot them first.

According to regulations, you are required to wear your chin strap on your helmet at all times the helmet is worn. Well, in formation, when on patrol, and during transport, this is certainly true... And then there is the practical policy of not enforcing that rule in locations where stealth attacks on sentries is an ongoing issue. One of the ways a first shirt spots the newbie on duty is the chin straps in place on sentries. You can't pop on/off a pony tail.

No maybe things have changed allot since I served, but your NBC gear bag is in the trunk of your car, so its always with you, even when off duty, and when you switch to the alt wife's car, you damn well better move the bag to the alt trunk!

You never went out onto the flightline without your mask-bag, and you could and would don-&-clear in 15 seconds at any time when the call was made. Maybe the Airforce, because of its vulnerabilities is more NBC aware, and ready, but we took such things very seriously. The hardest part of every exercise was PDM tail mounted HF radio coupler installs in full NBC ensemble.

You claim that being a dashing "Peacock" is more important to current commanders than combat readiness! And you don't get issued Masks!? Get Real.

Of coarse, my time of service was back in the active cold war, so maybe things have gone so soft....

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Yep, different times, services and jobs. When I was in an infantryman wouldn't be caught without his helmet strapped, but when I trained with non-infantry they, for whatever reason, took their head gear off constantly (actually got very bad sunburn on my head from that, scabs and all). Of course getting knifed while on post isn't a big threat to begin with, so there's no reason for sentries to not wear have their helmets strapped. We also don't carry our NBC gear everywhere. It's with you for sure where ever you go, but it stays on post. The biggest NBC threat to service members today is from our own CS chambers, so carrying around a mask, let alone full MOPP gear is pointless. Certainly if there is a real NBC threat the gear would be carried, but for the most part it's a non-issue.

As for being a "Peacock", yeah when I was in that was emphasized quiet a bit. I doubt it was as big for you being that you were in Vietnam (a real war with a real enemy), during a draft, and in the Air Force where they treat their service members better, but in the 2002-2006 all volunteer Army Infantry your uniform had to at least look like an iron touched it and your boots highly brush shined, and even then you were likely to get a comment about looking jacked up. Training is, of course, higher priority than looking good, but uniform standards were really pressed on. Still I'm glad I was with the units I was with. As we all said we'd rather look jacked up in garrison and kick ass in the field than look nice in garrison and be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up in the field. Again different times, different services, different jobs.

 

Look at pop idols. They tend to have feminine faces. Women seem to prefer the most feminine-faced members of pop groups. Examples from the past: Paul McCartney, Davy Jones.

 

Sounds like you spend time in Germany, where beautiful women shave neither their legs nor their underarms! I surmise that women may prefer men to be clean-shaven if only because, after cunnilingus, vaginal musk completely permeates a man's beard. What normal woman wants to kiss that...?

 

Girls prefer feminine faces. We have to make that distinction here.

Pollycy, did you spend much time in Germany? And in which backwater village?

 

The chilly North Sea beach at Cuxhaven, down through Köln, on south through Mainz, then down in Bavaria, and all the way to the top of the Zugspitze, near Garmisch-Partenkirchen. But you see them on the beaches at Majorca and Tenerife, too -- swarms of them....

Die Haare auf deutschen Damen beinen ist sehr fein und flaumig. Die deutschen Männer, die ich kannte mochte es sehr.

 

No Stuttgart?

 

Personal experience has proven to me a certain preference for smooth skin on the face when acting in such a way that causes great pleasure for a woman... but, perhaps it is just me.

 

Our military requires a clean shave so when you put your gas mask on, it has a tight seal.

Ive tested this theory, and it is legit. Worst idea ever.

 

facial hair makes men look older

 

Well actually it's because they can then see if he has cooties down there.
Oops...wrong beard!

 

how would like to have some scratchy beard between your legs?

 

Because it gives them a rash on their inside thighs.