‘Allah’ is for Muslims only, Malaysian minister tells Christians

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    The word “Allah” is reserved only for followers of Islam and non-Muslims must stop challenging this “absolute” right, Malaysia’s Home Minister Datuk Seri Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said on Sunday, reported The Malay Mail Online.

    Malaysia has been witness to a long-term dispute concerning the right to use “Allah” in Christianity, the minister’s fresh remarks came ahead of court proceedings, over the point of contention, which are due to start next week.

    The home minister appealed to Muslim groups to unite as the local Catholic Church applied to uphold a landmark High Court ruling that allows Christians the right to also call their lord “Allah.”

    “I urge Muslims and leaders of Muslim organizations to agree to defend the word ‘Allah’ and put aside political differences or any differences in interpretation or any individual’s or organization’s personal interest,” said Hamidi.

    The tug of war over the word “Allah” will return to court on August 22, when the Court of Appeal hears the Catholic Church’s bid to strike out the appeal against the 2009 High Court ruling upholding the Christians’ right to use the Arabic word.

    The row first erupted in 2008 and then in 2009 the High Court made a landmark ruling in favor of the Catholic Church, when it said the word was not the exclusive right of Muslims.

    In January 2010, the Home Ministry filed an appeal against the ruling, but there was a three-year hiatus before the dates were fixed for hearing at the Court of Appeal.

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/lif...nly-Malaysian-minister-tells-Christians-.html

    The word “Allah” is reserved only for followers of Islam ?
    Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah Akbar .. :roflol:
    What a stupid Muslim minister.
    Doesn't he know "his" Allah is trying to tell Muslims something, but they do not listen...
    So he kills them by the thousands each month..
     
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    If he said, "The word “Allah” is reserved only for followers of Islam", then he should qualify it to mean
    that Allah is reserved for true believers in the God of Love and Life, who is Jesus Christ.

    I hope he doesn't mean it in the sense that the Israelis, HATO & USA use it via their Talmu-"Islamic" terrorists they sent against Yugoslavia, and Libya and are sending against Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and Egypt.
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    lol @ above poster blaming genocidal Jihad on the jews.
     
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    Allah is Gods name

    Allah should be used when talking about the God Allah

    Christians very rarely mention God Allah

    They prefer Jesus pbuh one of Allahs prophets

    So when they talk of their God they mention only Jesus pbuh
     
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    There is a new trend here posted by Islamists on other Islamists - "they are not really Muslims" etc.. etc...
    Sad isn't it ?
     
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    Why would anyone want to say allah anyways? They are in malaysia for heaven's sake, not arabia. Don't the malaysians have their own word for god?!
     
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    Swedens also are not permitted to use the world Allah ! Kapish ? :alcoholic:
     
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    Allah was a name for God in Arabia.
    Muhammed was a Prophet of Christ to take the Gospel to Arabia.
    Naturally he used the word Allah for Christ's title as God.

    But, the Pharisees in Arabia poisoned Muhammed and took over Islam converting it from Islam-submission to "nature's God" Jesus Christ to a Talmudic religion where:
    Christians are to be killed;
    The Pharisees did not murder the Perfect Man;
    Jesus Christ - Allah never revealed Himself in Human form leaving us in the dark;
    We are required to follow the dictates of high priests rather than to know Christ's Word for ourselves;
    Only 1 witness is required to convict any goyim of any crime.

    After they took over they also killed all of those who followed Muhammed and Christ.
    One of Christ's Islamic followers:
    View attachment 21879
    He has crosses on his horse and armor and he declares himself a follower of Christ.
     
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    Good, that will save us from freaking lingual imperialism from the arabs. We have a word for god and that's gud, we don't need to say it in arabic and neither does the malaysians. linguistic nationalist ftw!
     
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    Well, the West is partly to blame, given that in the early Western writings of Islam, Muslims were described as worshiping a god called 'Allah' (Allah here is not the universal god that Christians and Jews worship, but an invention of the Arabs). I guess it just stuck, even among Muslims.
     
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    Really? christian arabs refer to god as allah. And the malaysians were muslim way before the west met them so it can't be blamed on the west.
     
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    Arab Christians call God "Allah".
     
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    So...?

    I wasn't specifically referring to Malaysia, but to the general phenomenon of people preferring the word 'Allah' over 'god.' Haven't you ever wondered why a Muslim (or non-Muslim) would write a piece of text in English, but use the Arabic word for god?
     
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    More absolute nonsense the global Jihad has (*)(*)(*)(*) all to do with the teachings found in Judaism but rather the teachings of Mohammad found in the Koran and Hadith, only in the world of the rabid anti-Semite is the Jew responsible for all evils of the world.

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    Copts and Maronites are not Arabs they have suffered a cultural genocide at the hands of the Arab imperialists, this policy is known as Arabization.
     
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    My co-worker is a Lebanese Christian, and he is certainly aware of and proud of his Arab heritage.
     
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    Allah is not Yahweh of the Judeo-Christian tradition the receivers of his covenant, Allah is the moon god of pagan era Arabia.
     
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    What a load of nonsense, they spoke Cypriot and Aramaic until they were conquered by the Arabs and suffered the subsequent cultural genocide, however, remnants of their actual ancestral language remain to this day despite the imperialist attempts to destroy it. Lebanese Christians are not descended from the Arab hordes but from the Phoenicians. Likewise Egyptian Copts are not Arabs, they like the Lebanese Maronites are non-Arabs indigenous to the region suffering under Arab occupation.
     
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    Elo-him, is one of the Hebrew words for God.

    So is Elo-heynu. They both have the root "Elo", which is the same as "Allah".

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    sorry bro, but Arab Christians consider themselves to be Arabs. And they speak Arabic.
     
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    I don't blame this guy...and I agree with him. I do not believe that Allah is the same as the God that I worship. I believe Allah a false God. This Muslim knows that my God and his God are not the same. He believes my God is a false God.
     
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    Allah is the God of the Old and New Testament.

    Its no different that Elo-him and Elo-heynu, which are the Hebrew words for God.
     
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    No Allah is a pre-Islamic name coming from the compound Arabic word Al-ilah, which comes from the roots al (the) ilah (deity).

    Some of them speak Arabic because they have suffered a cultural genocide, their ancestral languages are Cypriot and Aramaic, they are Phoenicians not Arabs.



    Arab Christians are not the only Christian group in the Middle East, with significant non-Arab indigenous Christian communities of ethnic Armenians, Georgians, Greeks and others. Besides those, large ethno-religious Middle Eastern Christian groups of Copts, Maronites and Syriacs are being argued with a great deal of controversy whether their ethnic identity is Arab or not. Even though sometimes classified as Arab Christians, the largest Middle Eastern Christian groups of Lebanese Maronites and Egyptian Copts often claim non-Arab ethnicity: significant proportion of the Maronites claim descent from ancient Phoenicians, while some Egyptian Copts also eschew an Arab identity, preferring an Ancient Egyptian one. However, both Maronites and Copts had lost their linguistic differentiation during the Ottoman period in favor of the Arabic language. The Syriac Christian groups, composed largely of Chaldo-Assyrians, form the majority of Christians in Iraq, north east Syria, south-east Turkey and north-west Iran. They are generally defined as non-Arab ethnic groups, including by the governments of Iraq, Iran and Turkey. Assyro-Chaldeans are practicing their own native dialects of Syriac-Aramaic language, in addition to also speaking local Arabic dialects. Despite their ancient pre-Arabic roots and distinct linguo-cultural identities,[13] Assyro-Chaldeans are sometimes related by Western sources as "Christians of the Arab World" or "Arabic Christians", creating confusion about their identity.[14] Syriac Christians were also related as "Arab Christians" by pan-Arab movements and Arab-Islamic regimes against their will.[15][16]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Christians#Lebanon
     
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    That is not how I see it. Allah and the one true God are strikingly different and you can see that through the differences in the values, behaviors, priorities between majority muslim and majority Christian and majority Jewish societies. The God of the Hebrews and the Christian God are the same.
     
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    The root for the words Allah, Elohim, and Eloheynu, all are the same Aramaic word for God.

    The term Allāh is derived from a contraction of the Arabic definite article al- "the" and ilāh "deity, god" to al-lāh meaning "the [sole] deity, God" (ὁ θεὸς μόνος, ho theos monos).[8] Cognates of the name "Allāh" exist in other Semitic languages, including Hebrew and Aramaic.[9] Biblical Hebrew mostly uses the plural form (but functional singular) Elohim. The corresponding Aramaic form is ʼĔlāhā ܐܠܗܐ in Biblical Aramaic and ʼAlâhâ ܐܲܠܵܗܵܐ in Syriac as used by the Assyrian Church, both meaning simply 'God'
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah#Etymology
     
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    So why did the Malaysian minister tells Christians- 'Allah’ is for Muslims only ??
     
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    As I knew already, I haven't wondered, only been lighty annoyed.
     

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