~ MOD ALERT ~ Obama Just Gave Amnesty to Illegal Aliens

They have to be permanent residents i.e. green card holders to sign up.....so your analysis is incorrect.

 

The question that needs to be asked is this: why are we even thinking about giving them green cards when they’re here illegally? .

 

because their relative is an American hero.

 

So what ? They are invaders of the country whom those military heros are commissioned to defend us from.

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=257146

I am not libertarian. I am not "the right".

 

So we agree.

 

people who risk their lives for our freedom deserve special privileges.

like knowing their relatives can apply to get PR status without fear of deportation first.

 

Ok so we're going to reward criminal behavior now?

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The people deserve that. Where have their family members risked their lives for this country?

 

Does the US born citizen who have not served in the army have the same privileges when marrying an illegal immigrant? Will the family members of the spouse of the non combatant US citizen have also the same privileges?

If no, then this law is impartial.

I accept a favoring to obtain jobs, some health care privileges, but the family members of the foreign spouse have nothing to do with the heroic action of the troop.

This law is not giving benefits to the army member but to the family of the foreign spouse, a family that probably won't gave a dime to defend the US.

 

I don't think so.

Why is so important for you to reward with permanent residence to people who came illegally to the US. Will you reward someone entering illegally to your property and sleep in your backyard every day? Plus calling others to do the same and start to build tents in your property? And later have them to demand living inside your house because they have been living already in your backyard for years?

What is wrong with you?

I have nothing against soldiers getting married with foreign people, you can marry whoever you want to, but it is not right to mix immigration issues and less immigration favoring for illegal immigrants to have a "don't touch me" status because the sister got married with a US troop who went to war.

It was the US troop duty to serve the country, it is a paid job. When the person signs up for being a troop, this person knows the risk and consequences. The same with police officers, firemen, etc. Why giving privileges to one department and deny them to the rest?

 

none of them are guarunteed PR status.

 

These people are getting paroled in place (equivalent to DACA recipients). They are not getting Green Cards. They can apply for work authorization, that must be re-applied for yearly (DACA is every 2 years). The only difference is that these people (children, spouse, or parents of military member) can apply to adjust status, whereas DACA can not. To AoS they must first apply for a visa and receive it before they can AoS to LPR/GC. What this policy has done is take Parole in Place from an individual request case-by-case basis and grants the Secretary of State to broaden this policy to all in this situation, the same as they did with DACA, a very broad interpretation of the law. It was only the Attorney General in the past that had the ability to make these determinations on a case-by-case basis.

 

It isn't 'important for me to reward' illegal immigrants- it is important for me to support American troops.

Nothing at all thank you. What is wrong with you?

I understand your opinion, but respectfully I disagree. I think that extending special privilages to our troops like this is a good thing for our troops who would otherwise be faced with family being deported.

 

Not just a green card holder.
The rules are very complicated so most can't understand them. An immigrant also can obtain a visa. This claus is so that someone on the enemy side lets say was to defect or change sides, they could do so. Its more complicated that how I said it.

People don't understand how pro-immigration advocates have twisted, and manipulated laws and rule in the US.

 

Still being wrong even in the face of facts? Welcome to ignore.

 

Simple...Pro-immigration is becoming more powerful than the American people and American constitution, Everyone from politicans to capitalist fund these groups.

 

how am I wrong?

amnesty means they have been forgiven, it means they cannto be deported.

what kind of amnesty still allows deportation and even doesn't guaruntee PR status?

that's not amnesty.

 

That is what I do not understand about some people from the right. We are talking about services' families. It is not about the whole immigration problem.

These people should be taken care of just like any other service family.

 

Sorry, we give all service families special privileges. I have never heard of anyone from the right disagree with taking care of these families. Here is a great example of "if Obama is for it, we must be against it".

 

YEP...the frogs (or sheep) are being fried and don't even realize it. The skillet is not getting hot and even the greenest of frogs and the meekest of sheep are feeling the heat that THEY helped to turn up on ALL of us.

Once again, MIGHTYAXE, you are spot on and I appreciate your pointing out the difference in being offensive and simply speaking truth.....some among us, who are more thin skinned, often can't tell the difference and THEIR president is the most thin skinned among them.

Indeed, the left wing fanatics know full well that one builds pyramids (one block at a time) and this is EXACTLY what they have been up to for the past 50+ years with our education system, military, so-called social justice programs and even our Constitution. THEY are hell-bent on destroying this Nation by fundamentally changing it (sound familiar). Yep, this president is more of an enemy to many Americans than OBL. So to all you thin-skinners, put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

And they'll give lots of dimes (and dollars) wired to their home country, depriving th US economy of those dollars. Or they'll suck more $$ out of state treasuries in welfare $$, depriving those states of badly needed money for infrastructure, law enforcement, prison, etc

 

I am all for honoring US troops as well as police officers, firemen, etc. who risk (and sometimes lose) their lives in their heroic jobs, but giving amnesty to lawbreakers isn't the way to do it. This is just a political ploy to rake in more illegal aliens, to get more VOTES.

SCAM!!

 

So what ? During the time they're here (perhaps decades), they, very improperly, impose on the American people all the standard Harms of Immigration >>>

1. Americans lose jobs. (especially Whites due to affirmative action).

2. Wage reduction.

3. Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).

4. Remittance $$$ lost. ($40 Billion year).

5. Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.

6. Increased crime.

7. Increased traffic congestion.

8. Increased pollution.

9. Overcrowding in hospital ERs.

10. Overcrowding in recreational facilities.

11. Overcrowding in government offices.

12. Overcrowding in schools.

13. Decrease in funds available for entitlements.

14. Cultural erosion.

15. Overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)

16. Introduction of foreign diseases.

 

Obama doesnt care about the constitution.
Obama doesnt care about the will of the American people.

 

Yeah ? I just got surgery in the VA hospital in Tampa last month. I saw volunteers there visiting wounded veterans, and bringing them gifts (MP3 players, portable DVD players, etc). Have you ever done that ? How "important" is your importance ? Or does it only apply to what supports the Democratic party, or some other special interest ?

I've know hundreds of US troops and NAtional Guard + hundreds more veterans. I can't think of a single one who would accept this phony vote-raking scam, or anything that supports an invasion of the USA, by a foreign nation. The whole idea is preposterous.

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=257146

 

James K. Polk, Dwight D. Eisenhower. Wish you guys were here now.