George Zimmerman's Girlfriend Wants to Drop Charges, 'Be With Him'

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  1. Roderick2013

    Roderick2013 Banned

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    Yeah, you nailed it on the head.
     
  2. cupid dave

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    Domestic Violence - False Accusations
    The main reason false accusations of domestic violence have risen is due to a) ambiguous wording of the law, and b) feminist indoctrination.
    Under most jurisdictions, an arrest can be made if the officer at the scene believes the accused party made a threat of violence and/or may pose a threat to the accuser. As this is an ambiguous and speculative element of the law, it allows police officers to use their discretion (IE. basing a decision on a hypothetical). Officers can use the law's ambiguous wording to ignore physical evidence at the scene and/or make a predefined judgement under the pretense that it's a result of reasonable suspicion. [7]
    Police officers are trained to be sympathetic towards women who allege they are victims of spousal abuse. Due to feminist lobbying, police officers are trained to believe the feminist theory that domestic violence is a patriarchal practice used to oppress women. Using this theory, feminists argue that women are incapable of committing domestic violence against men. [8]
     
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    Completely false of course.

    Police in fact are NOT allowed to use their discretion when it comes to domestic violence. Instead they simply have certain criteria and if those criteria are met, they MUST make an arrest.

    Whether it's a woman or a man they arrest.
     
  4. Gatewood

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    I had a partner once who every once in a while would show a newbie an interesting looking scar on his shoulder. It was a knife wound from when my partner told his -- at the time -- wife "no" when she demanded a divorce so that she could take their child and move into her boyfriend's house. In all fairness though, he did point out that his ex-wife hadn't actually been trying to stab him in the shoulder. She was actually going for a shot to his heart when he ducked and turned his back to her.

    When domestic disputes are concerned you should never assume that the weaker sex was automatically the innocent and injured party. On the other hand you also shouldn't assume that the poor bastard bleeding on the ground was necessarily innocent.
     
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    Many claims. No proof.
     
  6. conhog

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    They can estimate whatever they want.

    The FACTS are that police everywhere are by law required to make an arrest when an allegation of DMV is made. Now that doesn't mean charges will be filed, or that the person is actually guilty, but police MUST make an arrest if they even suspect that the allegations are true.
     
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    No one is defending the kid....WTF are you even spewing?
     
  8. conhog

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    no, but PLENTY are pretending like he was just an innocent black teenager who did nothing to deserve being shot. He wasn't that.
     
  9. Gatewood

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    No one defended Trayvon as an innocent and sainted youth of barely shaving age . . . who would never even dream of hurting a fly? Ahem! Bwahahahahahaha!
     
  10. Gatewood

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    There is that, plus the fact that George could have saved himself a great deal of expense and anguish had be simply carried a lepip instead of a gun and understand that when someone approaches you in anger . . . you back up if at all possible. The worst that would have happened is that perhaps Trayvon would have lost a few teeth.
     
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    Ignoring that there are those , some of whom are posting in this VERY thread, who have said EXACTLY that , is YOUR problem, and certainly doesn't mean they don't exist.

    Look at that Roderick guy as an example. That dude is EVERYTHING that is wrong with black America today. Nothing is a black person's fault, nope not ever, not one time.

    Ignoring the existence of those people is as stupid as those who ignore the fact that George is a moron who probably got away with murder that night, and has continued to prove he's a moron ever since.

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    I don't disagree with this, and this my biggest issue with this whole deal. Self defense laws are SUPPOSED to allow a person to use REASONABLE force to protect oneself. I absolutely believe George used EXCESSIVE force, I don't believe his life was in danger, and so he shouldn't have taken a life.
     
  12. Gatewood

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    Precisely. What he did was legal, but he was injudicious in having gotten himself in that situation to begin with. Had he actually been in law enforcement or a security officer then it would have been considered a series of rookie mistakes. So he was foolish and an equally foolish teen paid the price. Nothing George has done since he received a 'not guilty' judgment convinces me that he has even begun to get his life in order. In fact it is now probably too late for him.
     
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    Sadly , many people have no sense of the value of a human life. In that situation neither George nor Trayvon did.
     
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    Hiving watched this cluster....I have seen nothing as of yet that makes the kid culpable.
     
  15. tecoyah

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    Uh....no....no one has, though some have defended him against such unfounded charges.
     
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    George is given a pass on his assault of an undercover police officer because of the officer not identifying themselves. Why since George didn't identify himself is Trayvon not given that same pass?
     
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    If it's true that she lied to police, and he goes back with her, then he's an idiot

    I'm not convinced that Zimmerman didn't do it (she could just be an insecure woman who still feels attached to an abusive partner)- but then again the only reason this is even news is because it's Zimmerman
     
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    Was George an undercover police officer ?
     
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    He was the Neighborhood Watch captain and was acting in that facility. Now can someone answer the question?
     
  20. conhog

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    Easy, George was under no obligation to identify himself. A cop on the other hand IS required to do so.
     
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    Obligation has nothing to do with it. George acting as Neighborhood Watch was hassling the kid and didn't have the wherewithal to tell the kid who he was or why he was bothering him. George's assault of the cop and his past run ins with women are looked at as no big deal by the majority of Zim heads because he isn't black.
     
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    George is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiot, but even an idiot has a right to self defense. PROVE it wasn't self defense.
     
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    I never said he didn't have a right to self defense, but you are right. George is an idiot, and it was his actions that night that led to the events that he had to defend himself against.
     
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    Of course Trayvon was completely innocent, as all blacks are, always.
     
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    The ABC agents said that they did identify themselves.
     

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