Part 12 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. trevorw2539

    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As a matter of interest - YES. The Library of Alexandria was one of the greatest in history. Until it was destroyed. It was a 'reference library' containing thousands of parchments, scrolls and books. It was part of a larger research institution Musaeum Alexandria. Many important philosophers thinkers and mathematicians studied there. It would almost certainly had Hebrew Scriptures and a copy of the Septuagint. But it was not open to the general public.
    We don't know when the Library was actually destroyed. After that event students used a subsidiary called the Serapeum.
     
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    The OT was simply the accretion of Jewish tradition, whereas the modern NT was codified by the winning side of Christianity in the Roman Empire mainly due to "orthodox" books and epistles being copied more often than heterodox books and epistles (the Gospel of Judas versus the Gospel of Mark, for instance). Especially as most of the books and epistles were initially traded among a relatively small group of literate people.
     
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    Indeed 'It would be so nice if something made sense for once'. and so far supporters of human is ape and ape is human theory makes no sense at all. Many authors such as J. R. R. Tolkien, J. K. Rowling, L. J. Smith, George Lucas, Gene Roddenberry, Pierre Boulle etc. are all fiction writters they write things that make more sense than the people who claim that humans are apes and apes are humans.

    It is not my science that state humans are not great apes great apes are gorilla, chimps and orangutang while humans are group in their own it is actual science that is taught in all Christian schools and Universities the science that I learn to be factual not the science fiction science that humans are apes.
     
  4. Mitt Ryan

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    It wasn't silly to you before, you knew that God was justified in destroying the depraved sinful culture of the Canaanites. The thing I can't understand is how did you ever become an ordained minister that you claimed you were in the past then just walked away from it.

    At one point in your life you must have embraced everything about the Bible, understood and interpreted everything correctly and accepted it and didn't think anything was silly but now you turn 180 degrees from your roots...puzzling I'd say. What happened to you? A man of God at one time being an ordained minister and now a man who hates God, doesn't believe in Him anymore.

    You know very well that God was justified, just recall what you knew back then when you were an ordained minister.

    At one point in your life you didn't believe that at all, go back to your roots, you'll see His actions weren't horrendous nor were they indefensible.

    At one time you were doing that voluntarily. You have made your choice, we are not going to beg you or anyone else for that matter to worship the Creator Almighty God!
     
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    When Moses started to write the Bible sometime in 1300 BC there exist no such great Musuem Alexandria all Old Testament writing were kept in Jewish Temple. Museum Alexandria will be founded by Ptolemy I Soter I (Ancient Greek: Πτολεμαῖος Σωτήρ, Ptolemaĩos Sōtḗr, i.e. Ptolemy (pronounced /ˈtɒləmi/) the Savior), also known as Ptolemy Lagides,[1] c. 367 BC – c. 283 BC, was a Macedonian general under Alexander the Great, who became ruler of Egypt (323–283 BC) and founder of both the Ptolemaic Kingdom and the Ptolemaic Dynasty. In 305/4 BC. By this time the Old Testament has already been written. Israel will fall under Macedonian rule on that time period hundred of years after the Old Testament has already been written and before the Museum of Alexandria was build.

    Alexandria, Antioch, Rome and Jerusalem would later become the center of Christian learning and libraries after Constantine legalized and stopped the persecution of Christianity. The New Testament will gain much of it's preservation in those Cities.
     
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    There was no winning side during the New Testament 1 AD. The New Testament is the continuation of the Old Testament written by the Apostles or by eye witness accounts about the life and teachings of Jesus Christ not about Roman tradition or their religion.
     
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    Very interesting and compelling thread.

    Eagerly await the sequel: "12 Questions Regarding The Faith Of Islam".
     
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    They are reassign to monastic life they must engage in months if not years in seclusion and spend countless hours in prayers and meditation some clerics will refuse to accept and they will resign form the clergy it is when they are no longer priest that they are now under the jurisdiction of secular authorities. Others will be reassign to church retreat and when ever they have display remorse and have promise not to re-offend the church will assign them to parishes again unfortunately some clerics do re-offend at the same time the prison population in secular government such as the USA is over whelming and has shown no sign or little sign that it is making any positive effect on child rapist.

    This is comparable to Switzerland neutrality and bank laws anyone can keep their money in a Swiss account and not worry that it will be sequestered because the Swiss government have this policy never to turn over any bank accounts even if it belong to terrorist to any foreign government. Lately though that has change because of the severity of terrorism.
     
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    It also doesn't mean that it couldn't have been the Israelites.

    The Bible being the Word of God says the Israelites were enslaved in Egypt, so could it mean that you are in denial then?

    If so, do you have irrefutable proof that the Bible being the Word of God is wrong?
     
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    Moses wrote nothing. The Tanakh wasn't written until around the middle of the 1st millenium (500BCE)

    I'm well aware of ancient history and the Library of Alexandria. Nothing you have said has any relevance to the fact that the Library collected and contained a tremendous amount of literature.
    So the Temple contained the some writings, How does that stop the Library having a copy?

    If you want to believe everything you read in the Bible, so be it. Try putting it against proveable facts. If you're honest you'll soon come up against problems. If you're not you'll see no problems.
     
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    That's not true that no-one takes WanRen seriously...I take him seriously for he is well versed in Scripture! Keep up the great work WR! :salute:
     
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    Well maybe you can understand whatever language his posts are in...and "well versed in scripture" doesn't cut it with me....honesty is more important.
     
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    WanRen said they were arguing and so nothing is conclusive and so how could you deduce from that, that the Bible is wrong?

    Basically they have theories...and we all know what theories are don't we?

    To me the Bible is the infallible Word of God and so how could it be wrong?
     
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    Why do any of you religious people disagree? Does the bible not clearly state what you should believe? It seems even amongst you, you guys dont agree with each other. Why is the religion so unclear? Whos correct you or the other religious people here who say the earth is only a few thousand years old?
     
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    Your god you tell me. He sure seemed confused when he killed innocent children because some people were evil. To answer your question. Yes zapping only evil people with 220 volts would have been better than killing innocent children. Even a complete moron would not have made that decision.
     
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    I'm Naive? YOu believe the Earth is only a few thousand years old. LOL Hilarious. Here, your own Bible proves that you are incorrect. According to you your god killed the entire planet. Men women and innocent children included. Compared to your god, Pol Pot and Stalin are Pope. Also, you have confused dictators with the facts they are atheist. In reality, dictators kill people because they want to obtain and maintain power over people. YOuve cited 3 people out of how many billions?
    How many people did the crusades kill? Hmmm didnt post those stats did you? How hypocritical.
     
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    Apparently your "evidence" is not accepted by other religious people. Why is it that millions and millions of muslims think your evidence is not "evidence". Are you saying they are not smart enough to understand your evidence? By the way what evidence do you have? And if you say the Bible says so, well.......I guess I can see why the muslims dont believe you are correct.
     
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    Perhaps you might be right in that the majority on non-Christians scholars do not accept what the Bible says...is that suppose to be surprising?
     
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    I believe the Exodus did happen but I'm not going to be arrogant and say "case closed" for I'm not omniscient but apparently you seem to think you are.
     
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    Part of the Old Testament:
    1450-1400 B.C. The traditional date for Moses' writing of Genesis-Deuteronomy written in Hebrew.
    586 B.C. Jerusalem was destroyed by the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar. The Jews were taken into captivity to Babylon. They remained in Babylon under the Medo-Persian Empire and there began to speak Aramaic.
    555-545 B.C. The Book of Daniel Chapters. 2:4 to 7:28 were written in Aramaic.
    425 B.C. Malachi, the last book of the Old Testament, was written in Hebrew.
    400 B.C. Ezra Chapters. 4:8 to 6:18; and 7:12-26 were written in Aramaic.

    The Macedonians conquered Israel sometime in 250BC.
    Hebrews are very protective of their Sacred Scripture called Torah they would never want to share it with foreigners in fact only priest can read from it the only way Museum of Alexandria can have a copy is if someone from the Levites had stolen or share the contents of the Torah with the Macedonians or Egyptians.
    The problem is there is no problem with the Bible that is why for the last thousand of years many anti Bible, anti Christians anti God have been doing everything they can to discredit the Bible they have created their own parallel Bible religion called Islam, they have created their own bible by Charles Taze Russell their own messiah Joseph Smith , scientific theory that humans evolved from apes or humans are apes the Bible in its true form and essence has with stand all of these because it is the Real Thing.
     
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    I am humble:pray:
    One Bible One God, amen.
     
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    How do you know that it gets the origins of everything else wrong?...oh I'm sorry you don't need to answer, I forgot you're omniscient.
     
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    Do you accept what Muslims are saying then? Because just like Christians they too do not believe humans are apes, just like Christians they do believe in the Noah flood, just like Christians they do believe that Jesus Christ was crucified they just have a different story so do you believe in the Muslim version like their Quran and Hadith then?
     
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