Part 12 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Mitt Ryan

    Mitt Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Part 12 is a continuation of Post your tough questions pertaining to God/Jesus/Holy Bible and I will do my best to clarify and make sense of it to those who are unaware...I still have questions unanswered in Part 5, 6, 7, 8 , 9,10 & 11.

    Also I might answer questions that are on other members threads and so this will keep me real busy with the many questions that I will answer from my point of view/perspective keeping in line with Scripture.

    I don't want my intentions to come across as converting you or whatever lol... but rather clear up things etc... so ask away.
     
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    What is gods punishment for child rape going to be for catholic priests who committed these crimes? What is your gods punishment for non belief?What is the correctr religion according to you? How old do people in your faith believe the earth to be in years?
     
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    Exactly! Good post WR! Keep up the great work my brother!
     
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    So you have some experiment that someone did and told you how old your rock was? I got a bridge for sale....it is mine I promise. LOL!
     
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    Scientific experiments can and are verified. Your faith cannot disprove carbon dating. It is fact. Now why are you avoiding answering how old the earth is?
    Does anyone reading think think I asked too tough a question?
     
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    Why don't you stop starting new continuations of this thread until you finish answering the previous questions on the ones that you already started?
     
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    So you have papers on some rock that you believe an experiment was done on? You sure you don't need a bridge?

    I have already answered how old the earth is.
     
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    You think the two examples are equal in merit? You obviously have an ill view of how scientific work is conducted.
     
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    No we have the results of a proven scientific method. You are free to disprove the method and prove the stated science and subsequent results false if you so choose. I think you should since no one in half a century has found fault with the science. You however have no science at all to show how old the earth is other than your faith. In fact not only do you have nothing, you cant even find an answer in your own head as to how old you think the earth is and why. What part of carbon dating is false according to you and why. Wow I think you religious guys are starting to come over to common sense thinking. At least you are obviously embarrased to state in writing how old the earth is. Now if I were you I would question why I would be embarrased to answer that question in writing. Whats the matter you dont want people to see the crazy answer written out and attached to your name? If you are correct you should have no problem answering. Here we are in another thread still with non answers from the religious for the same freaking questions from a year ago and here you have also proven me correct again by answering not with an answer but with an insult. You are #3 to resort to insults on your side. (Right on Cue...thanks so much) You do this because you cannot beat my argument. This is classic Freud. Most humans will retort with an insult when they arent smart enough to deal with a"tough" question.
    P.S. Eye for an eye. I think its hilarious you believe in a boat that could hold two of every animal on earth built by a guy who lived to be hundreds of years old but think I am the one gullable enough to buy a bridge.
     
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    I suspect this one is on the slippery slope. I expect the lashing out will increase the faster he slides.
     
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    Note: These questions are being actively ignored by those with faith. I think after a year of asking questions and getting nothing but insults from the religious people on the board I am now declaring absolute victory in this debate. Dont feel bad, Ive never lost even against the highly educated among you.
    I will answer your questions for you since you lost due to embarrasment of writing your own answers.
    1) what is Gods punishment for child ass raping priests and those who hid the crime?
    Answer: nothing all they have to do is say "I sorry" and all is forgiven for raping a child.
    2) What is Gods punishment for non belief
    Answer: According to them eternity in a lake of fire. (seems fair and balanced right?....lol its ridiculous)
    3) What is the correct religion?
    Answer: There isnt one, true God doesnt require worship. What perfect being would suffer from vanity? (None, I know its ridiculous to think true god would)
    4) How old is the earth acccording to people with faith?
    Answer: They have no clue, if you ask three of them you will get three different answers all of which have zero basis in science and go so far as to ignore scientific fact. In reality we know exactly how old the earth is and it is not measured in thousands of years.
     
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    They can lash out all they want. The debate is now over. I gave one last try at the beginning of Part freaking TWELVE to get an answer. They face planted again, insulted then ran off to lick their wounds. They cant even answer four simple questions imagine what would have happened when I actually started quoting references from the bible. Its been 40 years, Ive yet to get one person arguing against me to get to level 2. Level 1 (remedial) with 100% certainty shuts them down and initiates the hypocrite response of insults. Exactly as I have demonstrated. You can set your watch by these guys.
     
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    So you think you are right because you have a Pet Rock with a pedigree? Hahaha! Not hardly. I answered your question and I am correct. The Bible says nothing about how old the earth is so your rock may be accurately dated give or take a millennium.
     
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    Because philosophy is ideology . even wrapped in the name of religious dogma , it still is ideology.

    now right or wrong is a whole other thing, but true or false…how is an idea true or false?


    If He did exist than He would be that emanation of God, If He did not exist than still His Message is the emanation of God. You would have to believe in the holy Spirit for the Later to be an emanation.


    ahh but it does …

    now even in the context of what i was talking about, it's people that need certain things to be true from what they deem true…the ideology for them needs to be historic fact. This induces a mental state where by they live their life a certain way…it's a path…i've been there done that, and switched the religion and ideology a few times…i can't do that anymore so i cannot enjoy the modus operandi that believing in the ideology to be true.
    I have to rely on myself and seek an inner aid , or higher self that is me…



    well like i said
    It doesn't mean anything to me except in the context of what it is trying to convey as a fable…
    but like i said it is a sutra…so it is supposed to be historic to a Buddhist..
    i was trying to explain to you that in various religions the ideology becomes historic fact for some and they need it to be so…maybe you don't get what sutra implies to a Buddhist. it's like Gospel truth…

    now compassion isn;t something to justify , it's something to be nourished and generated …there is no end to the amount of compassion or lack of compassion that can be present or not present in a human being…
     
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    It's obvious WanRen has read the bible and has interpreted it correctly.

    It's obvious you have misinterpreted the Bible to come away thinking that it condones horrible things.
     
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    True devout Christians who follow the teachings of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ live their lives in complete harmony with those teachings which expresses peace and love towards all of God's children.

    Certainly there were Christians who exploited and misused the Bible to spread evil and barbarism as WanRen mentioned. Whatever their reasons were they were not right, they were certainly not in harmony with the teachings of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ.

    Even today's Christians it wouldn't be surprising to find some among them not living in accordance with the teachings of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ.
     
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    Sorry but your rhetorical question can't be answered, Scripture doesn't say. Only God knows, besides as we see now, we can certainly say that God knew what He was doing, He always does. His divine plans are always righteous.

    We read in Scripture, "For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God."---1 Corinthians 2:11 NIV

    We also read in Scripture, "But when the right time came, God sent his Son, born of a woman, subject to the law. God sent him to buy freedom for us who were slaves to the law, so that he could adopt us as his very own children. And because we are his children, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, prompting us to call out, “Abba, Father.” Now you are no longer a slave but God’s own child. And since you are his child, God has made you his heir."--- Galations 4:4-7 NLT

    Look at the world today, we have certainly come a long way from just 8 people inhabiting this huge wide world since the time after the Great Flood.

    The human race survived and we have made great advances in technology, medicine, and scientific knowledge to improve our lives.

    Oh and let us not forget our Lord Savior Jesus Christ who lived among us some 2000 yrs. ago who paid for the sins of mankind by shedding His innocent sinless blood on the cross.

    Praise be to the Lord!!
     
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    Im not asking I am answering now for you guys. I. didnt ask how old your bible states the earth is I asked how old you and people of your faith think it is. Are you that brainwashed you cant answer using your own reasoning?
    Answer: yes they are as I have proven by their avoiding the question at all costs. They each refuse to answer because they have different views.
     
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    Come on now, he is only 1 year behind in answering questions. And the threads only go back a little more than 1 yr.
    He's on top of it, has it under control. LOL. eh!!

    - - - Updated - - -

    I'm guessing he hasn't figured out he can take off his shoes and get to 20 instead of being stuck at 10.
     
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    To the OP. I have only one question for you here if you could be so kind as to actually answer it for me.

    Considering there are literally tens of thousands of variations in christianity and they all believe something slightly, if not drastically different, why exactly should we believe that you are giving us the absolute 100% truth concerning these matters? Why you and no one else?
     
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    here's a horrible thing right from the bible and another thread:
    Let's look at the whole Deut. 22 passage in context, not the cherry-picked part:

    25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

    28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[c] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
     
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    This is where Mitt will say "You're not reading it right. The Bible is always GOOD....so obviously that it supports the horrific idea that virginity is worth a couple of bucks....must be YOUR mis-interpretation." Except of course, there it is ...plainly stated in black & white....no interpretation needed.

    Or he could go with "That was back in the days of the Law...it doesn't apply after Jesus came.".....except that doesn't excuse the fact it DID exist and IS in the Bible, and if God "inspired" the Bible, then that means God supported the idea...atleast at some point.
     
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    Or he could go with some other believers and say, " What's wrong with a woman being raped the rest of her life...what's bad about that?""" """
     
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    "Raped for the rest of her life" what a bunch of crap. Please give an alternative or just be quiet.
     
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    ya , it says it in this thread: ""The Atheist 'Pay 50 Shekels for a Rape, Get A Rape' Myth ""

    An alternative to what?

    No, I do not have to be quiet just because what I post upsets you.... :)
     
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