Why I suspect some liberals, if not most of them hate America

Am I talking SWAHILI here or is no one listening????

I....more so than ANY MEMBER HERE....understands the issues that exists upon MANY LEVELS....specific to the Israeli/Palestinian Issue....and these IGNORANT CONCEPTS....PLURAL....that some people have here are giving me HEART BURN AND AN UPSET STOMACH....every time I read a member post them.

Most members who are doing all the B!#@%ING AND MOANING here on this forum whether they are complaining about the ISRAELI'S OR PALESTINIAN'S.....or complaining about how how they feel either CONSERVATIVES OR LIBERALS either hate or support either side in their minds unfairly or unjustly.....ARE CONCEPTS THAT ARE SO F@%#!%G STUPID and concepts that are SO F@#%!NG COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THE REALITY....IT BOGGLES MY MIND!!!

THIS IS THE REALITY!!!!!

Whether most forum members here even know this or not the facts are the PALESTINIAN'S....and groups specific to either the Palestinian cause or their own causes such as HAMAS, FATAH, HEZBOLLAH, ISLAMIC JIHAD....GO WAY OUT OF THEIR WAY....to make sure NOT TO P!$$ US OFF!

US...being THE UNITED STATES and TEAMS like mine as I and my Team were asked for BY NAME....as the groups specific to the Palestinian's felt they could TRUST US NOT TO TAKE SIDES!!!

I owed a close buddy a BIG FAVOR going back over a DECADE....and because of this he asked me to do something he knew my Team and I would ABSOLUTELY HATE DOING....but I owed him BIG....so these last weeks I have been fulfilling the 3rd and last BABYSITTING JOB....I will have to do in the Israel/Palestine area and curiously in my attempt to act COMPLETELY UNHINGED AND CRAZY the fist time I did this JOB....thinking to myself..."Hey....if I act nuts and ready to start SHOOTING PEOPLE whether they be Israeli or Arab at the slightest breaking of my RULES that I will tell all sides exist before we start negotiations.... and every time anyone on either side breaks a rule I just PRETEND TO GO BALLISTIC AND OUT OF MY MIND and start pulling our my weapons and perhaps go outside and shoot a few rounds off....I even went so far as to have a Team Member sporting a M82 Barrett .50 Caliber Sniper Rifle completely blow out the tires of a few Negotiators Limo's....after I locked all sides negotiators into the underground BUNKER I chose as a spot for talks as I told them...."NO ONE LEAVES UNTIL WE AGREE ON THIS ISSUE!! And if I or my Team see's anyone's Personal Guards approaching this facility I WILL HAVE THEM SHOT!!!"

They didn't believe me so the first time I did this JOB I made the mistake of allowing CELL PHONES....a mistake I would rectify the 2nd and 3rd time I was asked to and did this JOB....the negotiators called their personal guards to come get them as I had all guards and all vehicles and limos parked a distance away from the Bunker....so as two Negotiators Guards started arming themselves and driving toward the facility I had some of my Team Members shoot out the tires of both Limos with the M82 Barrett .50 Cal's.

Now...let me ask members....don't you think after doing something like that it would absolutely ENSURE I would NEVER EVER be asked for again to do this JOB?

WRONG!!!

What it did to my amazement and I was REALLY P!$$ED OFF....when I heard what I did had the complete opposite effect of what I was going for....was to make me and my Team the group that ALL SIDES TRUSTED NO TO TAKE SIDES!!! So...I have done this BABYSITTING JOB....3 times now and this last time completely fulfills my obligation to my dear friend....and I WILL NEVER DO THIS JOB AGAIN!!!

Sorry for getting off point.

Anyways....the POINT is that groups like Fatah, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad...etc....GO WAY OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT AMERICAN'S ARE NEVER HARMED !!!

WHY????

Because the United States has donated BILLIONS IN AID!!!

Both to the Palestinian's and to the Israeli's!!!

The Palestinian's don't want ANYTHING TO HAPPEN to AMERICAN'S as we are their GRAVY TRAIN!!!

The Israeli's as well!!

People need to understand that ULTRA-RELIGIOUS ISLAMIC TERRORISTS represent a TINY PERCENTAGE of the total number of Arabs who are just people like anyone else trying to live, work, support their families and live a good life ...and for those members who are clueless...IRANIAN'S ARE NOT ARABS!!!

This whole issue is BEING CREATED BY BILLION'S IN AID BEING SUPPLIED TO BOTH PALESTINIAN'S AND ISRAELI'S BY THE UNITED STATES!!!

Understand this as well. When Arafat died he had stolen over $20 BILLION in monetary AID designated to build Palestinian Infrastructure.

When Arafat dies leaders from BOTH Hamas and Fatah met with Arafat's family and said..."LOOK...we know Arafat has over $20 Billion in AID money hidden in multiple accounts in SWISS BANKS!!!

We will allow you to keep 10%....that's over $2 BILLION....more than enough for any family to live a life of the KINGS if you give back the $18 Billion.

ARAFAT'S FAMILY SAID NO!!!!

BOTH...Hamas and Fatah asked to meet with the United States and at that meeting explained the problem and asked the U.S. to exert it's enormous Economic and Financial Leverage to FORCE the Swiss to give back that money to the Palestinian People.

The United States agreed to do this but warned both Hamas and Fatah that by the time the U.S. was able to force the Swiss to do this that Arafat's Family would already have moved it's money to the Cayman Island's...a nation that has no other economic income other that tourism and it's banking thus a place with Banking that cannot be forced or influenced by the United States short of a Full Scale Military Invasion.

Sp...the United States FORCED the Swiss to make their banking Transparent and as a result if some members remember all those NAZI GOLD, PAINTINGS AND ART were found in Switzerland ALL OFF A SUDDEN...in old supposedly forgotten about STORAGE FACILITIES.

YEAH RIGHT!!!

Like ANYONE...is going to forget where they stored over $555 BILLION worth of Nazi Gold, Art and Treasure!!!

But by the time this happened Arafat's Family moved the money to the Cayman Islands.


AboveAlpha

 

You can leave my religion out of this and discuss the topic instead of me. Or I can have a moderator remind you of the rules.

 

Sir, you invoke your religion frequently. You even post it on your footer, I see. So, actually, your religion is included in your every comment. But when another brings it up, then it's a violation? Not much depth to that religion, I suppose.

The topic at hand is hate. An emotion that you, as a professed Christian, admit to. And you still haven't answered the question at hand. What does it feel like to hate someone?

 

I'm going to explain this to you in a way you can understand. I can cite religious abstracts in my arguments and that doesn't violate the rules. You taking that as an invitation and justification for attacking me on a personal level is against the rules. I'm letting you know so that if you keep it up and get yourself infracted, you'll know exactly why you deserved it.

 

Boo hoo, a few Palestinians danced on 9/11 .

Their actions are understandable, given what the Israelis have done (and are doing) to the Palestinians. The average, simple American wouldn't understand.

 

Here is how the general Palestinian viewed the 9/11 attacks (views the average American obviously never heard of):

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http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/...ef and sympathy in the Arab and Muslim world:

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Well, right-wing Christians are suckers for Zionism.

 

This is true as far as what the Palestinian's did but unfortunately there were a percentage that went all DEATH TO AMERICA crazy for a short time but Fatah and even Hamas made certain such activities stopped IMMEDIATELY.

They know such a spectacle would only hurt AID to Palestinian's.

AboveAlpha

 

They oppress the Palestinians in a similar way that Republican's oppress minorities in America. The attacks are wrong, but Israel does not help when it goes out of its way not to follow United Nation standards for peace.

 

Listen....although I try never to take sides....I can tell you right now that the Palestinian's are LUCKY that it was not the United States that Hamas and Hezbollah was shooting Rockets at because we would OBLITERATE THEM!!!

Israel has shown great restraint.

AboveAlpha

 

What is this percentage? I believe it's much fewer than the percentage of Americans who want Iran nuked, or for Israel to kick the Palestinians off the latter's land (one poster expressed this desire above).

The video of the few, dancing Palestinians was not even recorded in Palestine. These are the people who were ethically cleansed by Israel, so I can understand their jubilation (even though it's wrong).

I mean, just look at these disgusting comments;

Israeli comments expressing joy at the news of a Palestinian bus full of children crashing.

 

What does this have to with liberal's comment? No one is shooting rockets at Israel; calm down.

 

The percentage of Palestinian's who did this is small....and is mostly specific to the same kind of Palestinian Groups that were in the streets cheering on back in during the Gulf War when Scud's were raining down on Israel.

This is just a description of the groups as no where near as many cheered on 9/11.

But it did happen and the Palestinian Leadership IMMEDIATELY did what they could to stop it as they know what the stakes are.

Look...I just came home from over there.

I know EXACTLY what is going on and I know and understand what is preventing a PEACE from developing.

It is MONETARY AID....and this is why Hamas and Fatah fight for Political Control of the Palestinian Territories as whoever controls this can line their pockets with American Monetary AID money.

Israel get's BILLIONS to bolster their Military and there are other concerns I will not talk about here.

You want to see peace?

We shut off all AID to both sides and prevent AID from getting in from other Nations especially Iranian Qud's Force who send Money and Arms to the Assad Regime that takes their cut then disseminates that money and arms to Hamas, Hezbollah...etc.

The United States is without a doubt capable of doing this and much more.

All it takes is Political Will.

AboveAlpha

 

It's shown restraint in not engaging in a full-out massacre but a slow, drawn-out takeover? Don't be absurd, among the World Nations, I pit Israel along with Saudi Arabia for theocratic dictatorship. Only Israel has the political expediency and wisdom to make itself look like a victim while engaging in naked power grabs.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/world/meast/gaza-israel-violence/
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Barrage-of-rockets-fired-from-Gaza-into-southern-Israel-345151
http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/03/rocket-attack-israel-continue-gaza/359126/
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=47341#.U4xxPKMU8dU
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/ar...condemns-rocket-attacks-from-gaza-into-israel

ok, yeah, sure. You might be ignorantly passing off bad news, or turning a blind eye

 

Lol. All your sources refer to the same event, March 12, 2014. That was the first time in 2 years that some rockets hit Israel. Meanwhile, Israel continues its theft of Palestinian land.

 

oh, cry me a river. You only hate Israel because it is a god-loving country that doesn't like LIberals

 

both Palestine and Israel believe in the same God

Christians believe in the same God Muslims and Jews do

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Look up abortion, homosexuality, and social welfare in Israel. Then tell me it doesn't like "liberals."

 

it's all about dogma............you do know what that means, eh?

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it is up to you to post such ridiculous information, not me

 

Homosexuality:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Israel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Aviv_Pride

Social welfare:

http://bonosrama.newsvine.com/_news...f-socialism-is-evil-does-that-make-israel-bad

Abortion:

Israel's abortion law one among the world's most liberal.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-abortion-law-now-among-worlds-most-liberal/

 

yep, Muslims and Christian Dogma evolved from Jewish Dogma which in turn evolved from the religious dogma before it...

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What a curious disconnect.

Israel has a rich history of liberal and leftist politics.

 

again it is only your opinion since you still haven't posted a damned thing that backs up your claim

 

Your thin skin is showing. No attack on you personally. It's your religious "abstracts" that are effed up. As well as your posts.

Now, back to the hate thing. How does a true "Christian" hate?

 

Look....as I said....my Team and I are the group that all sides TRUST...as much as this infuriates me as the LAST THING I wanted to do is have to play BABYSITTER 3 times in this area of the world and if you read one of my earlier posts it explains how my attempt to act CRAZY and UNSTABLE backfired upon me.

BOTH....let me post that again....BOTH....one more time.....BOTH SIDES....the Palestinian's and all groups related such as Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad....and the Israeli Government, Israeli Defense Force....IDF....Leadership...and all supporting Nations and Groups of BOTH SIDES.....are PLAYING A GAME!!!!

This GAME is called.....GET IN A SHOT UPON THE OTHER SIDE BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES DO WE....EVER....EVER.....EEEEVVVVEEEERRRR....P!$$ OFF THE UNITED STATES!!!!!

You ideology which is in your case specific to believing that ISRAEL and the IDF....and all Nations and PRIVATE CITIZEN GROUPS....that support Israel are EVIL....and are attempting to SLOWLY AND SYSTEMATICALLY KILL, DESTROY AND WIPE OUT ONCE AND FOR ALL THE PALESTINIAN'S......is an ideology held by many and many others hold the diametrically opposite ideology that being......

The PALESTINIAN'S along with HAMAS, FATAH, HEZBOLLAH, ISLAMIC JIHAD, SYRIA, IRAN...etc... and all Nations and PRIVATE CITIZEN GROUPS....that support THE PALESTINIAN'S are EVIL....and are attempting to SLOWLY AND SYSTEMATICALLY KILL, DESTROY AND WIPE OUT ONCE AND FOR ALL THE NATION OF ISRAEL AND ALL JEWS......is the other ideology.

NOW....since I just got back from there as I have been there since roughly one week into May.....and because my Team and my JOB....was to run security and run Low Level Negotiations designed to establish protocols, scheduling, rules and other things necessary for HIGHER LEVEL PEACE TALKS TO OCCUR.

I can tell you this.

BOTH SIDES...and all groups on both sides PLAY THIS GAME....and the game is specific to pestering the other side with LIMITED ATTACKS....LIMITED BOMBINGS....LIMITED IDF AIRCRAFT RETALIATIONS....LIMITED THREATS....but the key word in all this is..............LIMITED!!!!!!

You see...because both the Israeli's and Palestinian's receive and have received BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN U.S. AID.....BOTH SIDES and all groups associated to one side or the other UNDERSTAND.....that THE ABSOLUTE WORSE THING THEY CAN DO IS GO TO FAR OR CARRY OUT A STRIKE OR BOMBING UPON THE OTHER SIDE THAT WILL RESULT IN P!$$ING OFF THE AMERICAN'S!!!!!!!

Because they realize this BOTH SIDES AND ALL GROUPS RELATED TO EITHER SIDE....go through INCREDIBLE LENGTHS and UNBELIEVABLE PLANNING......to make absolutely 100% sure and certain that NO AMERICAN'S ARE HARMED OR KILLED WHEN THEY VISIT ISRAEL OR THE PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES.

WHY?????

Because contrary to what YOU BELIEVE and contrary to that Ideology........AND.....Contrary to what others believe....those who support the Israeli's.....and have the DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSITE IDEOLOGY to what YOUR IDEOLOGY IS......your Ideology being the Israeli's and all groups associated with the Israeli's are attempting to systematically KILL THE PALESTINIAN'S......

......the OTHER IDEOLOGY being those who support the Palestinian's and all groups associated with supporting the Palestinian's are attempting to systematically KILL THE ISRAELI'S ANS JEWS.

CONTRARY TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW EITHER IDEOLOGY.....the FACTS are that NEITHER SIDE WANT'S TO KILL OFF THE OTHER SIDE AND END THIS CONFLICT ONCE AND FOR ALL RESULTING IN THE DEATHS AND END OF THE EXISTENCE OF EITHER SIDE!!!

Quite the contrary.

What both sides want is......ENDLESS...and remember I told you to REMEMBER this word I used earlier....LIMITED....CONFLICT!!!!

ENDLESS LIMITED CONFLICT!!!

ENDLESS LIMITED CONFLICT....forever and ever and EVER!!!

WHY????

Because as long as such LIMITED CONFLICT EXISTS....BOTH SIDES....can continue TO RIDE THE U.S. MONETARY GRAVY TRAIN!!!!

As long as we keep PAYING OUT MONEY NO SIDE WANT PEACE AS PAYING OUT SUCH MONETARY AID....which results in the Palestinian Leadership LINING THEIR POCKETS WITH U.S. CASH!!!!....and results in the Israeli Leadership doing the same....and results in the IDF being able to continue to KEEP BUILDING IT'S MILITARY CAPABILITY WITH ADVANCED AMERICAN WEAPONS SYSTEMS MANY THAT ARE MADE IN ISRAEL BUT AS ISRAEL DOES NOT HAVE THE TECHNOLOGICAL KNOW HOW TO DESIGN AND ENGINEER SUCH ADVANCED SYSTEMS WE GIVE THEM THE TECH. AND JEWISH AMERICAN ENGINEERS AND SCIENTISTS TO RUN THEIR WEAPONS MANUFACTURING BASE!!!!

Any questions?

AboveAlpha