Why I suspect some liberals, if not most of them hate America

Because of most liberals' attitude toward Israel. And why is that?

Consider this:Joe hates his boss, but he really doesn't dare to let others know, for various reasons. So what would he do after he found out the boss has a dearly loved vase in his office?

Have no problem understanding that I'm neither a huge fan of Zionism nor of Israel. I believe the America should alienate Israel — as much as she should do to all those European "Allies". Because I hate to see America being exploited.

But is that what's on the mind of liberals? No. Absolutely not. They care more about what IDF had done, they care more about the Palestinian people. They would even sympathize with the rocket attackers. From time to time, you see a liberal saying or slipping here and there their hatred for Israel, some registered liberal members here in this very forum don't even bother hiding.

To sum it up: liberals hate Israel because they secretly (or openly) resent (to say the least) America, they dare not make that crystal clear so they veil it... thinly. And it not just Israel. A lot of libertarians frown at the US-Israel relationship too but they hate more the mafia boss — thug image that's been projected to the rest of the world, which is very damaging to the reputation of the US. But liberals — they hate Israel because they really hate Israel, they hate what America stands for, it's the good old "Oppose whatever that might be good for America" mentality, legacy of the cold-war 60s. Liberals don't really want America to bug out from ME completely, but rather, they think America should give countries like Palestine a fair cut — remember in the 90s, how much liberals think we should talk to the Terrorist Arafat and many did consider him an hero against oppression?

 

Okay, this makes no sense to me.

Israel and America have different governments, and they are mostly trading partners.

Plus, your actually being pretty vague with your claims and didn't present anything to back up why liberals would hate America and Israel.

Unless you're trying to claim that all liberals are antisemites, which, while I am very prejudiced against them, I just can't see.

In order to make your claim stick, I', sorry but you'll have to present more information that actually conects the dots in your claim.

All you've really said is liberals hate America because of Israel, and that's an incredibly vague statement which needs to be fleshed out more with a lot more information to back up your claim.

 

They hate America — manifested in the form of hatred for Israel. They dare not openly hate America, so they hate America's closest ally. Does that make sense to you?

And if you doubt that liberals (most of them) hate Israel, just ask why are they so outraged every time Palestine were wronged by Israel. I think they are been treated unfairly too but not really outraged. I don't feel much for much of anything outside America.

And I knew you wouldn't dare to think that liberals hate Israel, that you think they criticize Israel out of "good will", so here is some thin-veiled hatred for Israel, written all by liberals, from a mainstream liberal outlet:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lia-p...ro-israel-but-pro-human-rights_b_4851177.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shai-franklin/israels-overplayed-anti-semitism-card_b_3238660.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-judaken/anti-antisemitic-hitmen_b_2617494.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/warren-goldstein/surprise-american-jewish_b_596869.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/idf-gaza/

And some authors are indeed, FROM Palestine. Their views are obviously biased.

 

So what the OP is saying is that he agrees with liberals, but he doesn't want anybody to think that he trusts liberal motives?

That's some conservative PC right there.

 

How exactly is Israel "America's closest ally"?

 

I dont understand the liberal hate for Israel. On the other hand Im not sure they hate America so much and they are just stupid and uninformed. They seem incapable of learning from history.

 

I'm a liberal and I love Israel. My kibbutz stay was one of the best times of my life. It's a very friendly and tech-savvy nation with an amazing, ancient culture.

Just because somebody wants more rights and recognition for Palestine doesn't mean they hate Israel.

 

OK....I am going to quickly put an END to this LIBERAL vs CONSERVATIVE YOU hate America! No! YOU hate America!

No....YOU hate Israel!....No! YOU hate Israel!

No...YOU ALWAYS OVER SUPPORT ISRAEL! NO! YOU ALWAYS OVER SUPPORT ISRAEL!

BULLS#!%!

I have just come back from Israel and the Palestinian Territories where I just spend close to a MONTH being in charge of Security and Running and Responsible for Medium Level Talks that iron out and are designed for all sides to AGREE upon scheduling, protocol and agenda of Higher Level Peace Talks.

This was the THIRD and FINAL TIME I have and will do this!!!!

Basically I and my Team are BABYSITTERS WITH RIFLES!!!!

It doesn't matter if it is Republican's or Democrat's in control of the House and Senate or the Presidency....THIS IS THE REALITY!!!!

Because we keep giving both Israel and the Palestinian's BILLION'S OF DOLLARS IN AID....neither side's Leadership has any real reason to sue for PEACE!!!!

After all PEACE would mean the STOPPING OF THE AMERICAN MONETARY GRAVY TRAIN!!

This total BULLS#!% about it being Conservatives fault or Liberals fault MAKES ME SICK!!!

EVERYONE AND EVERY SIDE IS AT FAULT!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Jewish people in the US are liberals.

Liberals hate conservatives in America.

Many mainstream liberals hate jews today, because the Palestinian cause and the muslim cause is all the rage on the left.

The logic breaks down, but not for the reason that the others have stated I think.

The logic breaks down because leftists are even more racist than conservatives, and leftist logic is just a measure of cognitive dissonance, and not a true moral cause.

 

I can tell you this as it being FIST HAND KNOWLEDGE!!!

When it comes to the National Security of the United States...there is no such things as..."Many mainstream liberals hate jews today, because the Palestinian cause and the muslim cause is all the rage on the left."...end quote Virgil.

There is REALITY...then there is the TINY PERCENTAGE OF CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERALS WHO B!#@% AND MOAN ON TV NEWS PROGRAMS...ON THE INTERNET AND AT POLITICAL ACTION RALLY'S!!!

THE REALITY...represents the over 95% of all American's who are Conservative, Liberal or Other who are aware the other 5% doing all the B!#@%!NG.....are MORONS!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Point is, *someone* don't just want that. *Someone* wants to see America fail at every front on every issue.

Quit calling yourself a liberal. Which of the following property do you have? A. Irrational. B. Wishful-thinking. C.Radical. None? And you think yourself a liberal?

 

Okay, I've read those articles linked, and I'm sorry I just can't see in them what the OP says is in them.

 

I couldn't make it to the end of this nonsense.

 

Because the words are hitting a bit too close (or right on) to home huh!

 

It really shows the weakness of your argument when the only tactic you have is to demonise the opposition

 

I have no use for the "liberals" that you have created in your fantasy world. Nor could I understand how anyone else would abide such craven imbeciles. Then again, I (thankfully) don't live in your fantasy world.

 

I am a liberal. I love Israel. I love America. I disprove your premise singlehandedly.

 

cudos..............I still think we should cease ALL foreign aid

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kind of like Libs in the anti-gun threads, eh

 

When was the last time gun owners were accused of being anti American in any thread?

 

me thinks you been listening to too many hateful republicans... where do you come up with this fictional stuff....

 

Agreed, and one day people will wake up to how much of this rubbish is media driven. Conflict sells papers, always has

 

you're not following the threads too closely, eh?
Libs prefer to have the country disarmed. Why is that?

 

Wanting the country disarmed is an idealogical debate. It is people exercising their first amendment rights to debate the value of the second amendment

If I am missing something in the threads then you should have little trouble providing some examples

 

well, since rule 10 has been, eliminated, I don't think I will .............ta ta

 

Dodge noted. Especially as you had a great opportunity to make me look silly....and did not take it. Telling, very telling