Police shootings in U.S. out of hand?!!

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  1. signalmankenneth

    signalmankenneth Well-Known Member

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    Oh, so now the lefties are trying to change the subject, now that they're getting trounced in the court of public opinion.

    Suddenly it's not about justice for Michael Brown anymore, suddenly it's about rampant police violence "in the US".

    I've been telling y'all, you're witnessing the death throes of the progressives, just exactly like what happened to the Neo-Cons in '08.

    Look at this stuff, these lefties are flopping around like a fish out of water. First they push all kinds of BS about the Michael Brown thing, and then when it turns out they're getting zero traction 'cause all the evidence is against them, they try to change the subject to "police brutality".

    And the foolish Democratic Party sheeple play right along with it, they don't even see how badly they're being used.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Who have you been listening to? Certainly not those on the left. The whup-te-do on your television set has more to do with getting you to watch than what people really think.

    Throughout the history of the United States it has been the conservatives, no matter which party they came from, that has been pushing for a more police controlled state. I'm pretty sure that the United States has more people in prison than any other country because of "law and order" efforts by conservatives. Liberals, true liberals, traditional liberals have always been against the overreach of the police. It was liberals that were crying foul when conservatives pushed through mandatory minimums, three strikes and your in prison for life laws, and protection for police officers (who were just doing their jobs). The protests aren't and haven't been about Michael Brown. They've been about the fact that police seem to have a licence to kill at will with no repercussions. Here in lily white Portland, OR the police are just as likely to kill a homeless man, or a teenager in the midst of teenage angst, as they are to kill a black person because the cop was scared.

    The problem is cops - scared mentally limited punks with guns and the idea that they know best.
     
  4. garyd

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    Over 90 million police civilian incidents a year 400 deaths, Cops far more likely to be killed than to kill and the stats if you actually look at them indicate that the number of deaths by cop from year to year are statically random. All this and you are trying to act like cops are blood thirst killers hiding behind a badge. Sorry but the actual evidence doesn't support you conclusions.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh YAY! A cartoon, it must be true like the dumbass hands up don't shoot crowd who base their revolt on something that didn't happen.
     
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    Here's a fun one; and true too:

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    And what if you're wrong?

    Number of reported justifiable homicides by cops: 461
    Number of cops killed on duty (homicide): less than 40
     
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    It's not that they are blood thirsty killers as much as they look at people as prey. Cops don't care about guilt or innocence, they don't care if they have to destroy or create evidence, they don't mind lying one little bit. It's a cat and mouse game stacked in their favor. All they care about is getting convictions. There is nothing honorable about being a police officer.
     
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    I've personally seen MANY cops being nice to people that EYE would have beaten silly with my baton, sprayed or Tazed until they messed themselves. And actually, I hate the Nazy type of cop a lot worse than you do.
     
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    Police suicides 126. They are more likely to kill themselves (apparently from the guilt of being such an anal opening) then to be killed by someone else.
     
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    No, dear. . .YOU do not see how badly you are being used!

    And some day, YOU may be the victim of your own beliefs.

    Police brutality and their "trigger happy" mentality has been a growing problem ALL OVER the USA, not just in Ferguson. And part of the blame must go to the NRA and their addicts. . . .The police has no way of knowing when they will face a gun. . .whether from a "bad guy" or from a "responsible gun owner" gone off the deep end. . .so they shoot to kill, too often for no valid reason.
     
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    I find this fear mongering.

    It sounds like you want all police officers to be declared guilty of AND and ALL shootings WITHOUT examining the details and determining what really happened.
     
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    The total amount of blacks killed by police in a year is just a good weekend in Chicago of them killing each other.
     
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    Funny you excluded the number of violent assaults and murders committed by Afro-Americans, Mexicans and Whites. It's surprising the low number justified homicides at 461 for the nation. That number is closer to the murder tally for four months in Chicago, or Detroit.
     
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    It's frustrating when so many simple ideas pushed around in the public are dependent on a lack of information preventing contextualization. Our cops kill more than cops in other countries. Let's think about this:

    1. We're bigger than other countries. All other things the same, you'd expect bigger countries to have more.
    2. Our cops are armed. Yeah, our cops shoot more people. It's also true that if the Germans didn't bring any guns to the trenches, the British would have killed relatively more people.
    3. The vast majority of cops who shoot are found to have acted properly. Getting rid of armed cops Would leave our cops and those they protect more vulnerable. In other countries mad men with butcher knives can roam the streets for a half hour unchallenged because a special unit is called - here, any officer is called.
    4. Our gun violence is higher - period. What do you expect cops to fight that with, flowers and songs by the Cranberries?
     
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    "Trigger happy mentality" has been growing across the US?!?!? Is that why murder per capita has been dropping for so long?
     
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    Not true, if people killed themselves for being "anal openings" then there would be no leftists.
     
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    Nonsense on every count More than 90 million arrests a year 400+ justifiable shooting looks to me like police are extraordinarily reticent about using deadly force.
     
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    Proportionally though, that does mean one of the 100 thousand or so police officers is more likely to be murdered on duty than on of the 300 million or so citizens is to be justifiably killed by a police officer.
     
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    Childish, unsubstantiated generalizations serve no purpose other than to expose the fragile nature of your person and the lack of a true case to make.
     
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    Oh yeah? And who is it exactly you think is using me?

    Is that so? The minions of orthodoxy are going to try to burn me at the stake? :roflol:

    NRA? I'm not sure what you're saying, I'm not an NRA member, never have been. And, not sure how NRA relates to police either. You're conflating about four different issues here, you're not making much sense.

    It sounds to me like you're fishing for a handle. Y'all don't seem to get it yet: you screwed up. You should have backed away from this thing while you still had the chance. Now you're being forced to morph "justice for Michael Brown" into a "police brutality" issue, for political reasons, and in doing so you're making a huge political mistake. You are alienating the swing voters. You don't seem to understand this, do you? "Police brutality" is going to get zero traction with swing voters after what they just saw on TV.

    Please, go back to your masters in the Democratic Party and tell them how thoroughly boneheadedly stupid they're being right now.

    Police brutality my foot. The overwhelming perception in this country right now is that Governor Jay Nixon failed to send in the National Guard to protect hundreds of business owners from an angry mob, and he did that for partisan political reasons.

    Right at this moment, half the swing voters that you depend on for election victories are thinking to themselves, "where were the National Guard? They should have cracked a few heads." You clowns are being incredibly stupid aligning yourselves with a charlatan like Al Sharpton on this one, I told you from the git-go you'd be screwing yourselves if you did that, and now here we are.

    It's not going to work, Sadanie. The best thing to do right now is to stand down, and try to minimize the amount of egg on your political face. If you try to push this thing any further it's going to hurt you twice as much as it already has.
     

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