"Jeb put me through HELL", Schiavo calls him "a vindictive, untrustworthy, coward"

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  1. cpicturetaker

    cpicturetaker New Member

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    One of the most BIZARRE episodes of EXEC POWER, partisan REPUBLICANS politics and UNIMAGINABLE 'MEDICAL MALPRACTICE' by NON-MEDICAL and MEDICAL people alike. A very very very SAD episode. Go ahead JEB, I WILL SEND EVERY DOLLAR I can afford for ADS specific to this despicable grandstanding in my state!! I feel sure Mr. Schiavo will lend his voice!

    (Bill Frist, Senator from TN, and MD and Senate Majority leader should have been ashamed of himself. He was more despicable than Jeb Bush! He is a medical doctor).

    Take this to the bank! This will get the country's attention--we will REMIND them.


    Jeb ‘Put Me Through Hell’
    Michael Schiavo knows as well as anyone what Jeb Bush can do with executive power. He thinks you ought to know too.
    By MICHAEL KRUSE January 29, 2015

    CLEARWATER, Fla.—Sitting recently on his brick back patio here, Michael Schiavo called Jeb Bush a vindictive, untrustworthy coward.

    For years, the self-described “average Joe” felt harassed, targeted and tormented by the most important person in the state.


    “It was a living hell,” he said, “and I blame him.”

    Michael Schiavo was the husband of Terri Schiavo, the brain-dead woman from the Tampa Bay area who ended up at the center of one of the most contentious, drawn-out conflicts in the history of America’s culture wars. The fight over her death lasted almost a decade. It started as a private legal back-and-forth between her husband and her parents. Before it ended, it moved from circuit courts to district courts to state courts to federal courts, to the U.S. Supreme Court, from the state legislature in Tallahassee to Congress in Washington. The president got involved. So did the pope.

    But it never would have become what it became if not for the dogged intervention of the governor of Florida at the time, the second son of the 41st president, the younger brother of the 43rd, the man who sits near the top of the extended early list of likely 2016 Republican presidential candidates. On sustained, concentrated display, seen in thousands of pages of court records and hundreds of emails he sent, was Jeb the converted Catholic, Jeb the pro-life conservative, Jeb the hands-on workaholic, Jeb the all-hours emailer—confident, competitive, powerful, obstinate Jeb. Longtime watchers of John Ellis Bush say what he did throughout the Terri Schiavo case demonstrates how he would operate in the Oval Office. They say it’s the Jebbest thing Jeb’s ever done...



    Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/01/jeb-bush-terri-schiavo-114730.html#ixzz3QL5TTMPh


    Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/01/jeb-bush-terri-schiavo-114730.html#ixzz3QL2aoTKy
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...erri-schiavo-114730.html?hp=t4_r#.VMvoSdLF9Ts
     
  2. cpicturetaker

    cpicturetaker New Member

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    I just saw this from last month...

    Terri Schiavo’s Husband Speaks Out On Jeb Bush’s Presidential Bid - “If you want a government that’s gonna intrude on your life, enforce their personal views on you, then I guess Jeb Bush is your man,” Schiavo explained, adding, “We really don’t need another Bush in office. (On reddit)
     
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    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    So her Parents had nothing to do with it?
     
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    Join the club. Conservatives don't want Jeb to run either, since Jeb is a "Democrat Lite".

    And BTW, the Terri Shiavo case did not break down into R vs D, it was quite controversial. Try not to take the typical "progressive" approach and make people a victim a second time for your political gain.
     
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    Her parents had everything to do with it. However, they were NOT listening to the advice of her medical team and her husband (who was her
    legal guardian at that point). My guess is they were more interested in what they wanted to believe--of course--(maybe even their PRIEST) than the pragmatism and expertise of medical staff.

    I remembered this a few months ago and forgot it again until I saw this today. ONE man and a governor and legislature, straight party lines, against him (though many REPS kept their heads low but thought it was shameful). Then a REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT (the other Bush brother who flew back to the WH to be able to sign 'something' to stop the tube being pulled in FLORIDA) who inserted him into the case with the full force of the 'GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR LIVES' POLITICAL PARTY. You gotta love the irony.

    (My wishes are in a living will at the doctor's office and my will with the attorney. I made the attorney write it down word per word. "Make sure I am clinically dead by medical consensus. If they say I am then then pull the plug)"

    (Whatever your wishes are and if you haven't done this, I suggest you get it in writing).
     
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    Really. That's all you have to say? Were you alive for that circus?

    And you guys talk about government intruding in your lives? This was one of the grossest abuses of power I have ever seen. It was absolutely disgusting. The president and the governor had absolutely no right to do what they did. It was horrible.
     
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    Sounds good.


    Walker 2016.
     
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    Blah, blah, blah, blah...

    Let's take everything and make it about an R or D.

    Pathetic.
     
  9. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    I am one person. ! am 40 i remember this quite clear. Her parents and Husband both wanted different things or do you remember it differently?
     
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    Oh, I remember it (I'm 47, BTW) quite well. The Bushes saw fit to interject themselves into a family disagreement when they had no right to do so. It was the most disgusting abuse of political power I have ever seen.

    I guess you missed that part.
     
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    The Bush's sides with the Parents. The same Parents that went against her Husband ( legal guardian in this case) and Terrii's own will. ( Backed by oral statements and those of multiple people that knew her well). I agree with Terri and her Husband on this one. HOWEVER without the Parents CONSTANTLY fighting against their own daughters will none of this would have happened. So yes imo ( MY opinion not " you guys" or "you folks") they share the blame for this.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the oddest think about this case was this (and there were many many odd things in this case)


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1077219,00.html

    "But, given the vehemence with which he has been fighting to prolong Terri's life, it is a little surprising to learn that Robert decided to turn off the life-support system for his mother."


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    I remember the husband wanting to kill her & how the fact he had already moved on with his new woman, somehow never came up as a severe conflict of interest. While her parents simply wanted to care for her.
     
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    In the case of his mother there was no Malpractice suit. I always thought this was about money and not Terri or Religion....
     
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    I would agree with you except for the fact that the Bushes abused their power to keep Schiavo alive. It was none of their damn business, and they should have stayed out of it.
     
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    The Husband didnt want to "kill her" she was brain dead. She herself did not want to live. He was going by HER wishes.
     
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    We really don't need another terrible Bush presidency.

    I hate that I have to agree with a murdering pig that killed his wife, twice.
     
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    Jeb Bush didnt pass the law that you have an issue with. He did sign it into law and yes he did push for it but he hardly did it alone.

    Look i am against what he did along with the Parents but lets get real here all the emotion about this is about him running for President not what happened to Terri.. Its a shame that yet again what she went through is being used as political fodder. Think about that.
     
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    that was a big part of it, Dad thought he deserved some of the money, and when the Husband would not give it to him he went ballistic imo
     
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    How did her Husband "kill her" when she was already dead?
     
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    I am thinking about it, and it scares the crap out of me. I do not want Jeb Bush in the White House, and this is a damn good example of why I don't. It's quite relevant.
     
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    There was no written word of hers, just the 2nd hand knowledge of the husband, who had already moved on with a new family. How that didn't become a bigger issue I will never understand.
     
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    Yes. I think the religion angle was only used as an excuse. For the parents it was about the money.
     
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    He picks and chooses. This one however, was right out of the RIGHT TO LIFE handbook!
     
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    There was no legal will but he brought forth plenty of witnesses that testified what they thought she wanted. The only ones that went against that was the Parents. A simple wiki look into the case would show this.
     

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