Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’

According to many christians, God created everything, God is omni everything. God has preplanned everything because of its omni powers.
So anything happening in his creation is a result of doing or the result of letting things happen. God in in 100% control of all things great and small.

 

Hence more God like. The OT God.

 

Great. If you believe that then you must believe there is a purpose
for cancer and all the horrible things that happen as well as all the good. I don't pretend to understand why things are the way they are. They just are and I don't see the point in fixating on all the terrible things in life to the exclusion of everything else.

It seems like the viewpoint of a greedy self centered child and if you reject the idea of God but blame him because
life isn't perfect and wonderful that says more about you than God (to me).

 

Dave, YOU are obsessed with other people's sex lives. And why?...is obvious.

You haven't dated since your wife's passing, have you? But you've been...tempted ....by all those "strumpets" and "harlots" you see every day on TV and in the streets, haven't you?

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Fair enough...what are His characteristics?

 

Indeed we don't. It's no different than any other kind of addiction.

 

Imagine that I were listening to a persons experience of alien abduction. Would I have to believe that aliens existed in order to air my opinion that aliens coming to earth just to prope people's anuses must be very narrow-minded beings? Of course not.

I would express no feelings towards aliens but solely towards the idea of aliens coming to earth to probe anuses.

Likewise, Fry's comments do not assume the existence of a god; it suffices that ideas of the god exist.

 

Excellent.
To question the magic immoral invisible man in the sky is to question their promised after-life.....scares the cr** out of them. They are driven by fear of their eventual death - robbing them of common sense.

 

Gnostics preached that God as Jews and Christian know him was not the true God. The true god, according them them was a type of star trekish energy being. This being created Angels and lesser gods to watcher over the universe. It was these lesser gods, who turned against the true god and demanded worship for themselves who cause evil, and Jesus was sent to bring people back into the light of the true god, by showing them that part of god is in themselves and they need to be one with the spark of god within them.

The Gnostics were the Bhuddists of Christianity.

 

I think you're confused. I never said anything about what I believe. I said what many christians believe. Having been in a christian family all my life and having been part of many discussion even on this very forum.

So I, personally don't hold any of those beliefs because God isn't participating in this world, IMO, in any way, shape, or form. At least not for the last 2000 yrs or so.

 

Guess you forgot to read the part where the posters said, " According to many Christians"".


Your , ""It seems like the viewpoint of a greedy self centered child " ...I interpret as , "if you care about the terrible suffering of others, you must be a spoiled child"....how ridiculous.


Also , the poster did NOT blame god but inferred that if you DO believe in him and you if believe ""God created everything, God is omni everything. God has preplanned everything because of its omin powers.""" then you should hold him responsible for his own actions.

 

We know the Biblical flood is a flat out LIE, for example, so it's doubtful that the Christian god EVER participated in the world....he's simply not real, he's a lie just like the flood.

 

"God ... knoweth all things." 1 John 3:20
So god KNEW that Ebola would form, and that about 9000 innocent people would die in the last few months alone, so he's of course evil, since all he'd have to do is snap his supposedly all-powerful fingers....but he's too immoral to do that. I of course would, because Modern Secular Humanism is more moral than that invisible friend is.

 

"Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’ "....I'm afraid that according to the Bible Mr. Fry is going to do just that ("fry"!) in the "lake of fire", because Jesus is too immoral to change his barbaric punishment for people who don't think like Jesus does. But Mr. "fry" will be in good company as people like Gandhi and Ben Franklin will be in there as well, so Jesus doesn't care about how much of a contribution to humanity people made, just that they suck up to Jesus.

 

My "you" is a royal you and not you yourself, necessarily.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/ev...t-flood-noahs-time-happened/story?id=17884533
Some very bright people don't seem to "know" what you think you know. The evidence for the great flood is there but where are you?

 

The 'royal you' in conversation then is 'one'. Meaning anyone.

 

The reality is that the majority of human beings are believers. Most believe in a benevolent God but the evil minority use God as an excuse to kill other humans. If you are wise you will align yourself with the benevolent believers.

 

Capricious would be accurate. That is, if one believed in a god. What would not be accurate is the Christian concept of a benevolent and loving god. That's the concept Fry is alluding to.

 

A catastrophic flood is one thing. A boat with all the animals in the world is entirely different.

 

Another atheist angry with God. What else is new?

 

Seriously stop. You will be equivelant to the flat earth believers in the future if not already.

 

So where did Noah get (and successfully return) the North American pumas, and Antarctic penguins, and Kangaroos (Australia)? You do believe that that story is a lie, don't you? If so, then you agree that you'd probably have to question every supernatural story about some invisible man in the sky in every religion every created as being just a fairy tale, no?

 

I agree but most people understand that a sunday school version of God that is taught to children is unrealistic.
The OT God certainly doesn't seem like a nice guy. Once more I have to repeat Fry is caught up in a criticism of religion and how people think of God. Not in God himself. We frankly have no idea what God is like and why life is
the way it is.

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Indeed. I offered no proof or belief in Noah's ark.

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Why is that? You don't believe in science?

 

The story is just a tale created by
ancient people trying to account for the world.
Why do you types have to flip out when I mention the very real evidence for a massive flood throughout the region thousands of years ago?

 

Yet you say you "believe in God".....what exactly do you believe about Him???