Who are conservatives' favorite radio entertainers?

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  1. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    No, as usual, it's you and OP, trying to make broad generalizations of political opposition under cover of a mere "talk radio discussion." It's right in the OP for all to see. Now, when the inaccurate generalizations are called out for the egregious, inaccurate BS they are, you try to narrow it back to talk radio alone. Grow up.

    1. You plainly don't know the difference between irrelevance and a "non sequiter" (sic). 2. Sure about that? Did you bother to read the specific question of OP's I responded to? Apparently not, even though I QUOTED IT in my prior long post.

    The only dishonesty here is the plain straw man the OP tries to fabricate by using a faulty list of supposed RW radio personalities, including a couple of blatantly inaccurate entries (Stern, Ramsey) and others few have heard of, to tar political opposition as being prone to bias in entertainment, obsessed with it even, when this forum... and this very thread prove the opposite, it's the left who is preoccupied with ideological entertainment.


    Yeah, almost always FROM THE LEFT, not the RW... or put your money where your mouth is and CITE IT. Then I will cite the number of times DAILY that the LW cites Huffpuff and Rawstory as the basis for whole threads.

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    Reread OP.
     
  2. TomFitz

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    I guess when you can't defend a false claim, you have to repeat it.

    This thread is about talk radio, and right wing talkers dominate the market.

    Oddly, you seem embarrassed to admit it now, where once right winger routinely boasted about it.

    Perhaps that's because the sponsor boycott of Rush Limbaugh's show after the Saundra Fluke incident WORKED!

    (I didn't expect it to, and I was shocked to turn on his program about nine months later and find so little paid advertising on it).

    I predicted years ago, that the vitriolic trash talk radio that Limbaugh brought to the national stage would eventually face.

    AM radio is an old people's media. These shows are not attracting young audiences. They're too transparant.

    I have always found Limbaugh to be a semi tragic character. He had a very very long run. Several wives, a mansion in Palm Beach, and corporate jet, all the things he ever wanted.

    But he's not the kind of guy people want to be around. He shows up at events and drops the names of celebrities he sees on his show. The favor is never returned.

    His personal life is a mystery, but the few glimpses we have had aren't very pretty.

    In the end, I predicted that he would wind up like Walther Winchell did, alone, unloved, and unacknowledged.

    He seems well on his way there.

    The ratings collapse his show suffered in major markets after the Fluke incident caused his to cut his price to keep 1/3 of his stations. And his advertising revenue never recovered.

    Clear Channel is his major syndicator, and his contract with them comes up next year. Sadly, the bonds that finance Clear Channel after Bain Capital refinanced the company a few years ago come due as well.
     
  3. TomFitz

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    We can make such generalizations because talk radio is almost exclusively right wing.

    And the thread is about talk radio. You're the one trying to twist the fact that talk radio is right wing by listing a whole set of unrelated folks.

    And it's interesting that your list makes it very clear that you equate right wing talk radio with news, since your 'rebuttal" was heavy with the names of real news organizations, reporters, and journalists.

    When did Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levin ever rise to that level of legitimacy?
     
  4. Sanskrit

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    No, this thread is the result of another thread, where OP got called out by me on ridiculous claims about the nonleft and ideological entertainment, and so went a googling for a list of top radio personalities, then rushed to make this exercise in flamebaiting and generalization.

    Not embarrassed about anything. Annoyed by LW on this forum making reference after reference to RW media entertainers, talk radio or other, in post and thread after post and thread, with little of that sort of posting from nonleft here, and then having the GALL to claim that these entertainers, who are hardly ever cited here other than LW doing it, somehow exert undue influence over the nonleft... especially here on PF, where they most certainly do not.
     
  5. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Right wing entertainers have clearly proved a double-edged sword for the GOP, and it is surprising that the political wing of the party seemed so slow to recognize that the profit motivation constituted an inherently disparate agenda for the show biz side. ("Conservative pols, let me introduce you to capitalism.")

    The abysmal regard for Congressional Republicans (23% approval/74% disapproval) may, in part, be a consequence of their being found wanting when compared to the ideological fantasists who spin their idyllic confections free of the constraints that reality imposes. (Sammy Brownback's "Kansas" could readily be a captivating utopian pipe dream as radio fare - not so good in fact.)

    Back in 1994, when Newtie and his minions groveled before the big Rush and made him an honorary fellow congressman (if there is honor in avoiding the democratic process normally undertaken to get there) Republican pollster Frank Luntz said that people who listened to 10 hours or more a week of talk radio had voted Republican by a 3-to-1 margin. "Those are the people who elected the new Congress," he said.

    The GOP establishment was deliriously happy with their thriving outreach ministry of the air, but it's increasingly revealing itself as a cuckoo in their nest.
     
  6. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    The title of this tread makes it clear what it is about.

    You efforts at deflection are noted.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    That's show biz!

    Within any narrow genre in the entertainment realm, such as right wing radio, there still must be variety.

    That's why it is the name of the premier source of entertainment news.


    "Rush is --- informative, funny and likable." Clearly, you're a big fan. Some folks find Adam Sandler hilarious. I'll never get it.



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    No, they don't seem to have grasped the lesson.

    Twenty years after Limbaugh broke on the scene, they nominated Sarah Palin as their vice Presidential candidate, a move so steeped in cynicism that it's hard to capture in words.

    Palin had the principles of a Kardashian. Her looks and her ability to sound like a right wing disc jockey endeared her to that audience.

    But tabloid celebrity as a substitute for political leader is a perilous route.

    Sarah Palin begat Herman Cain, Donald Trump, Ben Carson, and the rest.
     
  9. Sanskrit

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    Even a child could tell what this thread is about, the typical LW teeth gnashing over political opposition having any voice at all and the left's ubiquitous celebrity obsession. You and OP aren't fooling anyone.
     
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    The sad part is that he said Limbaugh was informative. You have to be practically illiterate in the field of politics or current events to be informed by someone like that.

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    We know what this thread is about. It's clear in the title.

    If you don't like it, you can go somewhere else.
     
  11. Sanskrit

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    Oh, no, I'll stay, thanks. If you think my posts are off-topic, report them as such. Otherwise, spare the BS attempt to cover this plain ole smear thread under the veil of "discussing talk radio."
     
  12. Russ103

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    Your obsession and long winded rants about El Rushbo are more predictable then the sun rise. Also, extremely pathetic and make me almost feel sorry for you, almost.

    Leftists fail at talk radio because everything they touch with their ideology has a 100% success rate at failing. As predictable as your ranting against any media that doesn't lick Obama's shoes.
     
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    You may regard them as pathetic, but you can't say they aren't accurate.

    My disregard for him and his ilk has to do with this lack of integrity, and the fact that much of his audience confuses what he does with legitimate news and commentary.
    That's evident from many of the conservative posts on this thread. They have conflated right wing talk radio shock jocks with real news reporters, and real news organizations. That says a lot about the audience, and helps explain why that audicence is so poorly informed and often misled.

    In the world of right wing noise, right wing disc jockeys are a piece with trash blogs and Fox. That's the limits of the bubble. The fact is that much of the audience doesn't distinguish between serious news content and what Limbaugh does.

    This is not the stuff of serious, informed people discussing politics and public policy. This is lowbrow carnival barking for an audience that doesn't know any better and would be bored with the real thing.
     
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    He has a severe, almost stalker like obsession with anything talk radio. It's not as simple as live and let live for leftists. Their way (their media in this case) is and must be the way for all.

    And they wonder why we compare them to commies...
     
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    I'm still waiting for his list of the top ten left-wing talk radio celebrities. Maybe he could dedicate a separate thread to it.

    One of the aspects of conservative ideological entertainment, is that it's increasingly becoming shuffleboard for the ears.

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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gee, that same rhetoric wasn't at all predicted or expected from you re talk radio :roflol:

    Seriously dude, your posts on this subject need some new talking points. I would like new material to laugh at please.

    Thank you.
     
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    So you're confirming that today's college aged kids and older get the majority of their "news" from comedians?

    That certainly explains a lot about what Gruber meant.
     
  18. Sanskrit

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    I answered your plain question above with 60 some names, regardless of your subsequent dishonest goalpost shifting (right here in black and white for all to see), knew you wouldn't respond to it in any honest, direct way, as you never do, and of course you haven't.

    What you also haven't done, what you didn't and couldn't do in the other thread, is reference threads here on PF from RW posters citing to these supposedly unduly influential radio hosts in ratio to the number of threads LIKE THIS ONE that are created by the LW. The obsession with RW entertainment, be it Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Levin or Fox News is INFINITELY more prevalent among the LW than the RW, as this thread and so many other plain smear threads prove in spades.

    It's one thing to dislike this or that entertainer, quite another to set up a straw man launching into stale, lame generalizations of entire political opposition based on something the LW very obviously cares far more about than the nonleft here on PF, RW radio.
     
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    Why are rightists so loathed to discuss their most successful radio celebrities?

    They run from Sammy Brownback's unique showcase of TP-style governance, his Red State Model.

    They even flee from Breitbart's timely article about GOP rising star Aaron Schock.

    Why must they sulk or lash out irrationally whenever topics about which they're touchy are discussed instead of honestly confronting them?
     
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    Making my point. Right wing ideology radio has no comparable rival.
     
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    Feeble attempts at derailing your own thread won't change what it is, a plain statement and admission of how rabidly obsessed the LW is with RW media entertainment, RW radio specifically. This is nothing new, has been going on for decades, long before Limbaugh. Check out this interesting Paul Newman movie from 1970:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066540/

    For decades, the LW, in all its faux tolerance, has been obsessing on ANY TINY TRIBUTARY of a toehold political opposition obtains in media, same then, same now. This is because what passes for LW thought dissolves near instantly if a total stranglehold on media is not maintained, withers like a vampire in the light of day. LW ideology is so empty and full of holes that it can't tolerate even small voices of dissent exposing the emperor's nakedness.
     
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    Well, you should try to catch Dave Ramsey. His goal---is to get people out of debt and I found him a great help in establishing a better financial footing. I think the reason he might be considered "right wing" is that he is an unabashed Christian. Unfortunately he and Rush are same time, different stations---I don't always get to listen to either of them consistantly.
     
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    This is why podcasts are the way to go! Rush's podcast without ad's is 1:45 of context. I will never go back to live after being used to the podcast.

    Check out Dan Bongino on SoundCloud, he just started his podcasts which are free and I think one of the best out there. I highly recommend it
     
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    Pope Francis is clearly "an unabashed Christian" but he is not normally though of as an ideological right winger.

    If Ramsey helps folks in his capacity as a free economic advisor, it sounds as if he might provide a service more useful than just spouting political fustian from the sidelines. The religion component may be an attractive one because of the older, predominant White, male, evangelical profile of right wing radio's fan base.

    I'm not a follower of any of the many right wing radio entertainers (nor ideologically-skewed show business in general) but it's a uniquely American phenomenon well worth examining.
     
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    Perhaps you need to re-read the OP. There is nothing in the OP that states to list your most abhorrent Hollywood has beens as "Who are conservatives' favorite radio entertainers?"

    You just seemed to take it upon yourself to list these half brained B listers.
     

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