All Christians are against gay rights and gay marriage

The Left has people arguing whether Straight marriages are fair to Gays who can't get married, when the issue ought be about preventing fatherless children.

Marriage is Tax advantaged BECAUSE a nation NEEDS kids raised by fathers and mothers.
Marriage isn't about the adults.
It is about the protection of kids.

 

Any significant movement has points where it has become particularly adamant.

Still, most reasonable people realize that gay people (and their advocates) are seeking EQUAL rights overall, and not the diminishment of the rights of others.

 

Exactly!! It is becoming more and more obvious... that those who stridently oppose homosexuals are also people who would seek to control people in other ways. If it's based upon "religion" per se, that is nothing but a recipe for large amounts of oppression.

 

Complete nonsense that has been thoroughly debunked numerous times.

 

Can you NOT see why the above is 'ludicrous'?

 

You nailed it.

And lately, there has been research to show that religion is diminishing within American society. And I strongly believe that the pursuit of "...a Taliban style religious theocracy...", is a significant part of that religious decline.

People are sensing the entanglement of Christianity with government/politics, coming to their senses and rejecting the same. One problem for 'religion' (per se) is that many people are seeing how politics has CORRUPTED RELIGION and are in the process of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. And I would not blame them one single iota for being as drastic as that.

Essentially, people know/sense that religion AS the 'authority' behind government, just plain sucks.

 

Morality is diminishing along with it.

 

Amen! You nailed it!!

 

I disagree with your statement.

It is not immoral to believe that all creatures (including gay people) have equal rights and that their capacity for loving is just as great as that of "Religious" people heterosexuals or not.

It is not immoral to believe in the right of women to choose. . .abortion has existed since the beginning of time, but today it is safer and surrounded with less secrecy. . .and hypocrisy!

It is not immoral to believe that war is evil in ALL cases, whether it is a necessary evil . . .or not (as it most often is not!)

It is not immoral to believe that wealth is NOT a right, and that poor people have the right to eat, to health care, to give their opinion, and to live a decent life. What is immoral is the obscene wealth accumulated (and often misused) by the very wealthy.

It is not immoral to not follow a religious leader's tendency to spread bigotry and prejudice. What is immoral is for some religious leader to take advantage of the misplaced faith of some people to accumulate obscene wealth for themselves.

 

So, you admit to being pro-gay marriage, pro-choice, pro-socialism and anti-Bible. Yet you label yourself as a Christian?

 

All they really want is the right to be legally married under law, it is not a big deal. Give them that and you can pretty much consider any "movements" history. I dont honestly understand what the big deal is, them getting married has no bearing on my life or anyone elses but the people getting married.

It is what it is, but I wish they would just get it over with so more important things can be taken care of.

 

You do not speak for ALL Christians and guess what no one else does either. This Christian believe in equal rights under the law and does not believe in forcing my beliefs on others through laws and amendments to the Constitution. No one is asking you or anyone else to support their cause they are asking you to stop trying to stop them from enjoying the same rights and benefits under the law and passing laws attacking them.

 

Amen to that!!

 

You can tell your kid anything you want. I have no say, nor do I want any say in the matter. Nor do I have any thoughts on what you say to them.

 

like almost all italians i'm catholic christian and i'm not against gay marriage and none of my friends is against it as well. Not my business. They can do what they want. Who am i to judge about them?

 

you do know there is a big difference between a sinner and a unrepentant sinner
we are all human and we all sin the difference is one that understands what they did or is doing is a sin and ask forgiveness for it and tries not to do it again and one that refuses to accept what they did was or is wrong and continues to do so and chastises the ones that say what they are doing or did was wrong and demands them to accept what they did as right

 

LOL. Flood the market? They're 3% or less the population. Not all of them will marry. Flood the Market???

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You started the silly thread. You tell us.

 

Certain benefits go with marriage period.

But (straight not gay) marriage is NOT solely "children"... despite the reality that they are surely better off being raised in a loving, nurturing and secure environment.

 

I disagree.

Some of the "morals" that phonies were propping up via their fake spirituality, led to nothing particularly good.

And I've known MANY non-religious people who are very moral, principled and LOVING people.

People can get there via following Jesus' way... but not I've seen NUMEROUS Bible wielding human beings FAIL at emulating Christ. I know atheists who try harder and do better to be and do good for others. (Go figure.)

The labels don't fool me anymore.

 

Surprised he'd even care about the qualifiers.
His only concern is economics, his claim. His insurance rates may rise. No basis for it other that opinion. Other's have showed they won't go up because of SSM, but some are stuck on needing to complain.

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Morality is increasing along with it. Open eyes.

 

How do YOU "label" yourself?

(And do you think that no one could challenge you about the same? If so, think again.)

 

You claimed to NOT be a christian and you seem to care about each and everyone of those things.

Do you know what a christian is?

 

Indeed. I agree completely.

 

An agnostic, but more rooted in morality than other ones.

 

Much of the world doesn't want some of your morality. It is immoral.