The Jewish Plan For The Middle East and Beyond

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  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    This is a sobering read that deserves some careful thought.............. by those who are brave enough to face reality.


    The Jewish Plan For The Middle East and Beyond


    June 13, 2014 / Gilad Atzmon


    Excerpt:

    Back in 1982, Oded Yinon an Israeli journalist formerly attached to the Israeli Foreign Ministry, published a document titled ‘A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties. ’This Israeli commentator suggested that for Israel to maintain its regional superiority, it must fragment its surrounding Arab states into smaller units.

    The document, later labelled as ‘Yinon Plan’, implied that Arabs and Muslims killing each other in endless sectarian wars was, in effect, Israel’s insurance policy.

    Of course, regardless of the Yinon Plan’s prophesies, one might still argue that this has nothing to do with Jewish lobbying, politics or institutions but is just one more Israeli strategic proposal except that it is impossible to ignore that the Neocon school of thought that pushed the English-speaking Empire into Iraq was largely a Jewish Diaspora, Zionist clan.

    It’s also no secret that the 2nd Gulf War was fought to serve Israeli interests - breaking into sectarian units what then seemed to be the last pocket of Arab resistance to Israel.

    Similarly, it is well established that when Tony Blair decided to launch that criminal war, Lord Levy was the chief fundraiser for his Government while, in the British media, Jewish Chronicle writers David Aaronovitch and Nick Cohen were busy beating the drums for war. And again, it was the exact same Jewish Lobby that was pushing for intervention in Syria, calling for the USA and NATO to fight alongside those same Jihadi forces that today threaten the last decade’s American ‘achievements’ in Iraq.

    Unfortunately, Yinon’s disciples are more common than you might expect. In France, it was the infamous Jewish ‘philosopher’ Bernard Henri Levy who boasted on TV that ‘as a Jew’ campaigning for NATO intervention, he liberated Libya.

    As we can see, a dedicated number of Jewish Zionist activists, commentators and intellectuals have worked relentlessly in many countries pushing for exactly the same cause – the breaking up of Arab and Muslim states into smaller, sectarian units.

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    http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/the-jewish-plan-for-the-middle-east-and-beyond.html
     
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    Cautiously Conservative New Member Past Donor

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    Nothing but conjecture and poppycock.

    The truth is - some Israelis might actually want to encourage religious and cultural fighting among Arab states, but there is no indication that any organized "plot" exists.

    The second truth is that no one can make others fight amongst themselves if they do not want to. Sunni and Shia love to kill one another. It's just what they do. The civilized world looks on and shakes their heads at the violence perpetrated in the name of religion.
     
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    Read the PNAC letters to Clinton and note the signatories... Then read Bibi's Clean Break Strategy.
     
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    Cautiously Conservative New Member Past Donor

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    The PNAC was a think tank that's all but history at the current time. If you want to cite something specific in either the letters or the Clean Break Strategy and show how it applies to your argument - feel free to do so and we'll discuss it in context. Telling someone to "go read" something doesn't cut it.

    You put forth the specifics first.

    I'll debunk them.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Revelation has long predicted what Islam would do, as we see happening,... without Jewish people lifting a finger:

    Rev. 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal (of the Scriptures), I heard the voice of the fourth beast ([Ez 1:10], i.e.; sociologically speaking, the academic, educated, Integrated Group) say, Come and see.

    Rev. 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse (OF FOREIGN COLONIALISM, FOLLOWED BY INDEPENDENCE AND STAGNATION): and his name, (ISLAMIC SHARIA), that sat on him, (BACKWARDNESS), was Death, (THEOCRATIC OPPRESSION), and Hell (IN WORLD WIDE TERRORISM) followed with him, (FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAM).
    And (RELIGIOUS) power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, (the Western World), to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the (FOUR) beasts (i.e.; the chariots of Social Force, the four Social Groups) of the earth.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    There is a Plan already in progress which Jews will at first resist, as they have since 32AD.
    But the evidence that the young Jews see in their own Bible will convince them that Elijah, who NEVER died,... DID return as Christ in 32AD, when Jesus was baptized:

    NOTE: Compare 1Kings 18 with NT:

    Both Elijah and Jesus raised the dead.

    Both Elijah and Jesus were immortal.

    Both Elijah and Jesus disappeared from the foot of a mountain.

    Both Elijah and Jesus ascended into Heaven before witnesses.

    Both Elijah and Jesus troubled Israel.

    Both Elijah and Jesus were hunted down by the Jewish authorities.

    Both Elijah and Jesus hid 3 days, Elijah in a cave, Jesus in the Temple.

    Both Elijah and Jesus pondered in the wilderness 40 days.

    Both Elijah and Jesus walked on the water.

    Both wrote letters to people on Earth after they had ascended.

    Both appointed a successor, Elisha by Elijah, and Peter, by Christ.

    Both were hunted by the Jewish authorities.

    Both gave a successor the power to raise the dead.

    Both gave a successor a symbolic authority, the cloak to one, the keys to the other.

    Both asked that the this "cup" be taken from them.

    Both had miraculous births.Both multiplied the meal for many people they feed in the crowd.

    Both destroyed the pagan worshipers and priests, one Baal, the other, the Pantheon of Rome.

    Both were promised faithfulness three times, Elisha in the former and Peter, in the latter.
     
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    Cautiously Conservative New Member Past Donor

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    I gotta tell you, Dave, I'm an atheist. My only concern when it comes to Israel and the Middle East is the value of the cultures, the necessity of military alliances and the dissemination of truth in the news.

    I leave Revelation to those who believe that sort of thing.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Fine.
    But Revelation is actually a very old writing which was once in Hebrew, hence 200 years at least earlier than Jesus.
    The Jews today study Revelation because it was Jewish, except for the first three chapters.

    So what the Revelation says is taken seriously by Jews and Christians.
    And that it is so old and so confirmed by the Jews as Hebrew in its origin, it has great weight now with Christianity so involved.
    So the scriptures now seem to be corresponding with History.

    It is difficult, historically, to deny the kingdom of Jesus came, that the 1000 year of Jesus, during the Monastic Age existed, before the Renaissance.
    And in 1919, the whole Ottoman Empire of Islam fell down at exactly the spot called Armageddon, with the Islamic Empire crushed totally.

    Rev. 16:16 And he, (who opens the sealed book: [Rev 5:5]), gathered them, (Jews, denominational Christians, and Muslims), together into a (triangular) place (the place of these three views of the Bible: Jewish, Christian, and Muslim) called in the Hebrew tongue (the triangular valley of) Armageddon.

    Sir Edmund Allenby on the Battle of Megiddo, 20 September 1918

    Thus on 18 September Sir Edmund Allenby - British regional Commander-in-Chief launched the Battle of Megiddo at Rafat.
    This set in trail an unbroken series of victories including those at Damascus and Beirut (the latter seized by a French fleet).
    It was in light of these overwhelming victories that Turkey sued for an armistice of surrender, which was duly agreed on 30 October 1918 in Mudros.
    British forces subsequently took possession of Constantinople on 10 November 1918.
    In the north our cavalry, traversing the Field of Armageddon, had occupied Nazareth, Afule, and Beisan, and were collecting the disorganized masses of enemy troops and transport as they arrived from the south.
    All avenues of escape open to the enemy, except the fords across the Jordan between Beisan and Jisr-ed-Dameer were thus closed.
     
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    The top negotiators for the nation of Israel originally wanted to go to Nigeria.

    Doubtful they have had any overall plan for the ME.
     
  10. Margot2

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    Pale horse refers to the Parthians who were famous for their white horses.

    - - - Updated - - -


    Uganda.................
     
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    Ahhhh, I knew it was somewhere in Africa.
     

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