Tears of Joy in New Orleans: Confederate Statues are Coming Down.....

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  1. MMC

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    The people of New Orleans are relieved to find that the statues of General Robert E. Lee, G.T. Beauregard, and Jefferson Davis will be removed from public placement throughout the city.

    Through a 6-1 vote, the local city council approved the measure to take down the statues with strong support from Mayor Mitch Landrieu who said that the motion would “chart the course for a more inclusive future.”

    This will be the most prominent removal of Confederate history by an American city since the events that took place in South Carolina and the growing trend to take down confederate flags throughout the south.

    Obscured by presidential debates and a Congress in disarray, recollection of the men who stood with the Confederacy in the mid-1800s is slowly starting to disappear. Six people voted to remove statues of prominent figures in history and little to nothing is being said about it in the main-stream media......snip~

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/justin...-confederate-statues-are-coming-down-n2095186


    Did they forget Robert E lee and some were all a part of the same Army before the Civil War? The article is Right about one thing. The MS media isn't saying much about it. What say ye?
     
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    Well it was a decision made by elected officials put in office by voters. If this is what the people want I really do not see the problem with it. But then I believe the democratic process should be used for all decisions and this is not always the case.
     
  3. MMC

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    Yep they voted them in.....Maybe the Suburbs around them can take them off the City's problem of what to do with them.
     
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    I think the statues of the historical figures should have remained in New Orleans.
     
  5. MMC

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    Looks like only the Saints can go marching in, huh?
     
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    If the saints were alive per 1967, then they were probably racist as well.
     
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    In Mardis Gras town? I never seen any of that.
     
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    Meanwhile back in New Orleans, residents continue to slaughter each other at break-neck speed.
     
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    Hmm, history. Who the f needs it?
     
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    Street Life, huh?
     
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    Huh … Maybe "The South" WON'T "rise again" after all ...
     
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    I'm not sure it's right to say that men stood with the Confederacy OR the Union. Men stood with their states. Lee, for example, probably couldn't have cared any more about Louisiana than he did about Vermont. What say you?
     
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    Well Lee was considered a top Military man even by those in the North. Many of them went to the same War College. Trained and fought with each other side by side. I think it would be a given for each to care about their own state.
     
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    The First Minnesota Volunteer Infantry fought with distinction at Bull Run and Antietam and were instrumental in the Union victory at Gettysburg …
    They weren't fighting for "Minnesota," but for The UNITED States of America ...
     
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    I say, out of solidarity with blacks, I'll burn my prized collection of Confederate postage stamps, and paper money. Maybe.
     
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    As I hear it, Lee fought for the South ONLY because he was a Virginian. Most of the top guys did fight together under Winfield Scott in the Mexican/American War and many were good pals. Defending slavery didn't have much to do with it for Lee (although he had them), he just considered himself a Virginian first.
     
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    While its a little bit far from an equal comparison, ISIL / Dasesh members apparently used the "democratic" process in embracing a similar mentality:

    Erasing "offensive" monuments from the public view rather having the tolerant & intellectual ability to appreciate talented craftsmanship / artistry & accepting historical realities.


    It certainly seems that much unnecessary rancor & wasted $ tens of thousands wasted by the narrow-minded & the "Selectively Offended"


    Couldn't the same money to move, damage, repair, haul & store be better spent in badly needed education & teaching tolerance?
     
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    That would be West Point where he also became the superintendent from 1852 to 1855
     
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    Second Lt. U. S. Grant (West Point graduate) served in the Mexican-American War despite his deep reservations about taking part in an obviously unjust war of imperial conquest … He was a soldier's soldier … and he was on the winning side, 1861-65 … Lee was a loser ...
     
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    They fought to save the union by fighting for their state of which it was a part carrying this flag.

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    It was state first Union second. Not like today.
     
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    No … You don't understand "Minnesota" ...
     
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    New Orleans continues to sink. Business and industry that used to be there 20-30 years ago gone. The only thing they really have is tourist. And the tourist came there not only for the partying in the French Quarter but the history. That the historical statues such as these were attractions. And what about all the places in the French Quarter? Slave trading was done in all those buildings are they to be torn down too? What about Jackson Square? You know Jackson who killed the Indians at Horseshoe Bend?

    Just idiocy and how will life be better for the blacks tomorrow? Next year? Ten years, because of this action by the city government.
     
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    "It was state first Union second."

    You don't understand history. Most citizens had nothing to do with the federal government and wanting nothing to do with it. It was ancillary to the states and you loyalty was to your state first. That's why we are the United States not the United People.
     
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    You don't understand "Minnesota" … which became a State in 1858 ...
     
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    The north wanted Lee to be it's army commanding general. But like the vast majority his loyalty was to his state even more than the US Military which he loved.
     

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