Donald Trump Rally In Chicago Canceled After Protesters Turn Out In Droves

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Although I think you've been respectful of the things I've replied to you, I don't think you've grasped them, and your questions have been answered multiple times. All I can suggest is that you go look at your response to ararmer1919 on post 247, and replace "Clinton" with "Trump" and "veteran" with "BLM protester" and see if you feel differently about the situation, because based on your various comments, you would see those situations as totally different, based on who/whom. And that's the problem and why you're not open to anything I say.
     
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    You skipped the part where the second he said the word Benghazi, long before he himself started becoming rude or belligerent, the crowd immediately began booing and cursing and yelling at him and shouting things like "throw his ass out", and it was the crowds reaction and the fact that the entire time he was trying to talk that is what he had to deal with that lead him to become belligerent himself.

    You can not blame him for being "rude and disrespectful" when he was treated in such a dispicable manner just for asking a question. No I take that back. Just for ATTEMPTING to ask a question. So you don't get off with that.
     
  3. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Holding "Trump"
    responsible for disruptions at
    Trump campaign rallies is, plainly, obscene.

    Witness Ryan, Hillary et al.

    Good Americans, Those That Believe In America
    Should Allow A Contrary Rally To Proceed.
    Good Americans do NOT Shut Down A Contrary Rally.
    Good Americans voice their protest within the bounds of
    FREEDOM and Respect too.​


    Holding Trump responsible for
    Black Lives Matter promoted disruptions
    is, obscene, perverted, twisted! :rant:

    Tell Me It Ain't So!​
     
  4. dnsmith

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    Trump had the absolute right to say what ever words he wished. 1st amendment rights prevail. Disruptives should only go to their own rallies, not barge into a private place with a private rally for one's supporters. When the punk thugs show up treat them with severe prejudice.

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    Yes there is, WHEN THE PROTESTER shows even a minute bit of hostile militancy, AND VERY HARSHLY.

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    YES INDEED!
     
  5. For Topical Use Only

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    He should instead be held responsible for not only his violence inciting open sewer of a mouth but also for his hair, which, frankly, is a terrorist all to itself.

    And then be tarred and feathered by an endless stream of LGBT folks and possibly have his penis stapled to a post so people can judge for themselves just how 'manly' he is.
     
  6. dnsmith

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    Yes do it civily, OR GET THROWN OUT BY THE HAIR, EARS OR WHAT EVER OTHER PAINFUL WAY POSSIBLE. That is what should happen if someone disrupts another's 1st amendment rights.

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    Wrong! Fight fire with fire, just make sure the offended party's fire is bigger and more responsive.
     
  7. dnsmith

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    I wonder how Bernie or Hillary would respond to hoards of punk thugs disrupting THEIR rally. Does anyone believe they would react more civilly? Anyone want to buy a bridge? I have a number of them all over the country.
     
  8. dnsmith

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    Disrupting a private rally in a privately rented hall IS NOT LEGAL PROTEST. It is punk thuggery that needs to be dealt with quickly and harshley
     
  9. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Similar to a violent act on another having a magnified crime when "hate" is involved,

    Disturbing the Peace at a Political Rally should hold the extra crime of
    Disrupting the Democratic process.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    She Is :flagcanada:
    Dragon Lady-1.jpg
    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
  10. robini123

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    Indeed, yet words also come with consequences.

    I agree.

    Meaning? Violence? If so I would disagree as that would constitute a criminal violation of the law.
     
  11. robini123

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    I doubt they would advocate violence.
     
  12. MAYTAG

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    Let me ask: is there any consideration given to the fact that these are Donald Trump events for Donald Trump supporters that are being interrupted by unwelcomed guests?

    Do you see any distinction between bringing violence to an event where you are not welcome and responding with violence to someone who provocatively shows up at your event unwelcomed?

    Only one group leaves their homes hoping to get into a confrontation. The others just want to support their candidate. Both end up being criminals, and should be prosecuted, but it's not exactly equal in terms of pure ethics, in my opinion. What say you?
     
  13. Sane Centrist

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    To be fair here, yes there have been some that have shown up at Trump's rallies with the intent to interrupt & disrupt, and yes this is something that presidential candidates & presidents have had to put up with forever going back to George Washington.

    Most (not all) of the people that have been spit on, dragged out, hit, circled & intimidated, had their signs tore up, and everything else at Trump's rallies, did not fall into this category and we both know that.

    What usually happens is some poor soul making the mistake of thinking people will be respectful & civil while they "silently protest" by holding a sign or wearing a shirt that clearly shows their displeasure of Trump on display.

    The next thing you know, there's a crowd of angry people that have formed a circle around the offending silent protester yelling & screaming. It gets Donald's attention, and then he gives the command to "throw the bum out". The end of this misguided tragedy ends with our innocent attendee being evicted by a gang of Neanderthals by being dragged out like a drunk from a bar.

    This is what happens at these events, and the proof of everything I just said is all over YouTube & the internet because everybody & their mother has cell phones with video capability these days, and it's pretty hard to refute any of it.

    Let me show you how an intelligent, classy, adult handles stressful situations & outburst....

    Please watch all of it in it's entirety to get the full effect, or you'll miss the point.

    [video=youtube;s-HGvYo-Q_s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-HGvYo-Q_s[/video]
     
  14. dnsmith

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    Hostile militancy IS VIOLENCE. HOSTILE MILITANTS should be handled with a little more hostile militancy, then thrown out on their ear with prejudice. Pansies like you are the major part of the problem of a violent culture we currently face.
     
  15. robini123

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    How one judges another says more about the judge than the judged.
     
  16. notme

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    That just not true at all. There are plenty of political events where opponents yell out questions that oppose the line of thinking of the speaker. What Donald Trump does, is to remove everybody that opposes his opinion, and encourages the idea that those people should be physically assaulted.

    And in fact. It has gone even so far, that people who voice their opinion in Trump rallies have been punched in the face right in front of the police. And behold the white police force than jumped on a black victim never minding the white guy who sucker punched around. Them actions had consequences for the police officers in question for utterly failing to protect and serve. While there is NOTHING criminal about a person voicing it's opinion. The US aint North Korea. Get used to it already.
     
  17. dnsmith

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    Why on earth has this country gone so far down hill that

    Most (not all) of the people that have been spit on, dragged out, hit, circled & intimidated, had their signs tore up, and everything else at Trump's rallies, did not fall into this category and we both know that.

    What usually happens is some poor soul making the mistake of thinking people will be respectful & civil while they "silently protest" by holding a sign or wearing a shirt that clearly shows their displeasure of Trump on display.

    The next thing you know, there's a crowd of angry people that have formed a circle around the offending silent protester yelling & screaming. It gets Donald's attention, and then he gives the command to "throw the bum out". The end of this misguided tragedy ends with our innocent attendee being evicted by a gang of Neanderthals by being dragged out like a drunk from a bar.

    This is what happens at these events, and the proof of everything I just said is all over YouTube & the internet because everybody & their mother has cell phones with video capability these days, and it's pretty hard to refute any of it.

    Let me show you how an intelligent, classy, adult handles stressful situations & outburst....

    Please watch all of it in it's entirety to get the full effect, or you'll miss the point.

    [video=youtube;s-HGvYo-Q_s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-HGvYo-Q_s[/video][/QUOTE]The point is they were disrupters and their illegally and deserve no mercy.
     
  18. For Topical Use Only

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    Yep.

    Trump supporters are pretty much defined by the absence of confrontational, combative behaviour.

    For sure if MLK was alive today he'd be there at Trump rallies.
     
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    In the U.S. a person who has rented a venue to hold a rally has exclusive rights to the venue for the duration of the rally. This literally means that other people do not have a right to free speech inside of the venue during that time. Does this surprise you? There is freedom of speech, but there are also property rights.

    Go hold your own anti Trump rally. You can't violate property rights and then complain about free speech when you get beat up and arrested. That's what happens when you are causing a disturbance on someone else's property. You do not have free speech on someone else's property if they say you don't. You must leave if they tell you to leave.

    Say it ain't classy. But it is definitely the right thing to do, since being beaten is one of the few ways to get through to folks who do not respect the property rights of others. And they have to learn it somehow.
     
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    I keep saying all Trump has to do is call his rallies a "job fair" and not one protester will show up!
     
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    Watch this video.

    [video=youtube;03Bt6b8PPP0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Bt6b8PPP0[/video]
     
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    Trump, as much as I dislike him, is not wrong. He should have security with night sticks at the ready, wack the protester and drag him/her out by the hair. Protesters are fine, BUT NOT IN A PRIVATE BUILDING OR A PRIVATE RALLY. The protesters were trying to curtail Trump's right to free speech, no matter what that speech is. Trump will get his in the end, but this is not the way to do it.

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    Then they would be too stupid for which to vote.

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    Fight fire with fire, or lose the battle.

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    Thank you for the compliment.
     
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    OK, but if you disrupt you should be thrown out painfully.
    Sure you can, just not as an uninvited guest at a private location, at least not without a konk on the head and dragged out.
    No you can't at a private location rented by the individual for his own supporters. You do not have that right.
    Right! All the way up to the point you protest the principle on his on personally rented space, not without a huge head ache delivered by security.
    Yes you should when it is a private rally.
    If you don't mind your manners that is exactly what should happen, after a good konk on the head.
    You would lose and everyone would have a big laugh at your expense, especially if in the counter suit you are required to pay legal fees for the "defendant".
    You educate anyone, even to potty train a 2 year old? LOLOLOLOL

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    Obama is an idiot. Hilary is a Corporate Whore! Vote for Bernie!

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    Not what happens at Trump rallies. disrupters express hostile militancy and should be throw out painfully and with prejudice.
     
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    I certainly am. Trump supporters have been overly patient so far.
     
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    Oh I'm sure the Trumpies will get the opportunity to partake in some proper violence in order to make America great again.

    I have my popcorn ready.
     

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