Bernie spends $575,000 on vacation home: Can socialists do that?

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  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Since you only need about $380,000 to be a 1%er , I imagine he has been for decades when you include his wife's income. Ain't that big a deal, and considering the average net worth of members of the Senate is about 10 million - he ain't exactly raking it in. At this point, the guy can't even retire in the States - he's
    going to have to move to Panama.

    Actually, I'm surprised the guy is worth so little financially. If the wife's family hadn't had some property, they would be in bad shape.
     
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    Why are you making up lies? He's been a 1%er since I was in kindergarten. It's not like he just retired and had all this cash saved. You are making (*)(*)(*)(*) up. He's been rich for a LONG time.
     
  3. Daniel Light

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    Dude - I hate to break this to you but having a net worth under 1 million at his age is serious trouble, and not even close to "rich" in any
    real sense. In fact it's down right scary for a person to be that old and not have more - his only saving grace is his access to Congress's health
    plan. If his wife's family hadn't willed her a home - they would be toast if either one ends up needing long term care in a home.
     
  4. ArmySoldier

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    Haha you didn't break anything to anyone. He was a snobby rich guy for most of his life. He's a hypocrite, and the young American idiots fell for it. Luckily, he's so stupid he couldn't keep his stories straight about how his economics could shift POA. Funny to say, Hillary schooled him there. Two rich liars sittin' in a tree :)
     
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    Or Bush at a ranch in texas..or....blah blah.

    When a President TRAVELS.... a whole bunch of the white House is on the trip too. Presidents don't hop in the Stationwagon to take a trip. You have various aides, security, the flying White House. The COST ain't cheap. However.. we ask (demand) any POTUS is on call 24/7 in a high stress job where half us insult him/her non-stop.

    this SAME nonsense thing pops up a few times a year.. from right wing morons who NEVER seemed to care if it was Bush, Reagan.

    Relative to a CEO of a MINOR company.. what we pay a president is cheap. Point being.. if you have to (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) over President Vacations.. you are a dingbat. Find a real issue. Do your homework.
     
  6. truth and justice

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    So your answer to the question, Before I cite it and make you look super embarrassed,, to Daniel Light, is "a long time". How did you get such an accurate answer, you must have spent hours researching that :)

    Just laughing at this outrage of someone spending just $575000 on a house. Hardly need to be rich to buy this house. This struggles to buy a one bedroom flat in most of inside and surrounding areas of London. $575000 is loose change

    Also, according to OP. Bernie said rich people must pay more in taxes to help poor people. So, in other words, he is not saying that he would not pay higher taxes.
     
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    $1 mill is "semi rich" but .. far from " serious trouble" when MANY Americans don't have $20,000 Net worth.
     
  8. ArmySoldier

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    I get it. You feel the Bern :roflol:

    I'm cracking up about the Philly rally that made him famous about his anti-1%er debacle. He lies like Trump! Probably the same hair stylist too.
     
  9. Daniel Light

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    Dude - honestly, I don't think you understand what wealth is in this country. Having a net worth of $600,000 at his age is pretty pathetic and
    wouldn't even bend the needle of "rich". Your boy Mr. Trump is pulling down that much per week. Hell, I work with Americans who are
    renting yachts at $250,000 a week, and that's for the smaller ones.

    Looking at Sander's financials, the guy has barely been middle-class for the last 30 years. Rich? No way.
     
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    Your Super Cool "opinion" about poor and rich is noted.

    There's a definition to a 1%er. That's Bernie :)
     
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    :worship: I worship such a typical Western Socialist! It happens also here in Italy, with former Communists joining political advantages to gain a lot of money or to have wide houses for a bit more than nothing [D'Alema, I make just a name ...].

    You see, usually "Socialist" politicians here are socialist just to gain the votes of the workers and of the poor citizens ... then, once gained their votes, they go back to their not socialist policies. You will see Hillary!
     
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    I don't believe you people realize what a 1 percenter is? I have a family member who owns a multi million dollar home on the east side of Mahattan, a multi million dollar home in the Hamptons and his children have their own million dollar homes as well. They are 1 percenter's. I know others who own multi million dollar homes on the east side of Manhattan, they too are 1 percenters. I know people who own multi million dollar homes in Greenwich Conn. They too are one percenters.

    The rest of us Americans are screwed.
    [​IMG]
     
  13. ArmySoldier

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    You don't know what a 1%er is. The definition is cited a page or two ago. Hope I helped clear up your confusion.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Very much agree with your last sentence
     
  14. Daniel Light

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    Honestly - this is the trouble with many Americans. They have not taken a look at the costs associated with old age. I've watched four couples
    in the last 5 years burn through million dollar estates in their 70's because of health issues - and they had insurance.

    The fact that so many Americans have less than $20,000 put away in their retirement years is the one reason I agree with Bernie on the need
    for Single Payer Health systems (and I AM for mostly Capitalists policies in all other aspects of business).

    But for you to think a million dollar net worth is anything more than a path to trouble - it's a bit sad. It's also the reason that we HAVE to keep
    Social Security solvent.
     
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    For me this falls in the usual practice what you preach line.

    Just like when the millionaire left start complaining the wage gap between CEOs and the works. If they feel this way either pay your workers more, or your CEOs less. You preach it...live it. Most however are of the ilk "Do as I say, not as I do"
     
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    socialists are only good at spending other people's money. not their own. they keep that for themselves.

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    so, you don't hate bernie's wealth.

    I guess that's reserved only for the conservative wealthy.

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    so you support his purchase of a second home?

    how is he not part of the evil rich?

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    well they should absolutely be subjected to a 90 percent inheritance tax!

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    What he can, or can't afford is not a point being made. Should the Socialist stand financially so far above the crowd of his students, workers and peasants comrades?
     
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    To continue, my family member had three children in top private schools and didn't pay a cent in income tax because of tax loop holes. The problem though in getting rid of the loop holes, is that so many institutions in our country are dependent on charitable giving.. Anyway those foundations by the super rich, are not because they are so humane, it's merely a way to avoid inheritance taxes and guarantee their children and grandchildren their future fortunes.

    I'm not sure but I think only about 15% of the money in the Clinton Foundation actually goes to charity, the rest goes into incomes for themselves and their children as the head of the foundation. ..And that income can probably be as excessive as they want it to be.

    As for the unemployment in the US, well according to top economists such as Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the real unemployment is now about 23%. What Obama presents is really a smokescreen. As for me I'm hoping for the good of the country, that Trump as a business man might be able to stimulate the economy by eliminating a lot of the regulations on small business' since it has always been the backbone of the US economy.
     
  23. Daniel Light

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    Why would I hate the conservative wealthy? This country is about opportunity. I love that in this country there is opportunity for ANYONE to
    become successful - I only point out that at the same time it is virtually impossible for EVERYONE to become successful and that we
    need to acknowledge that fact.

    There are over 16 million Americans with disabilities and another 20 million with mental skills that would
    put them in the range of being effectively handicapped. Add in the millions who suffer from mental illness and it's simply not in the range
    of churches and social organizations to care for these people without some type of state and national programs.

    Besides that, Bernie wealth is pretty paltry for a man his age. Considering the average wealth of his fellow Senators is about 10 million, and
    that most of the "wealth" is real estate that he would have to pay considerable capital gains on to access ... the guy barely makes it to middle-class
    status for retirement.
     
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    You have too much faith in trump. He IS Hillary Clinton.
     
  25. Daniel Light

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    Should a Christian have any wealth when the example of Christ was not to accumulate wealth?
    You seem to be confused by this one size fits all Socialism. Sanders would be more of a Swedish style socialist than a Marx style. His approach
    would be that if you have wealth, expect to pay taxes on it - not that you shouldn't have any wealth.
     

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