Trump Leads Clinton by 1 Point in New Poll as Enthusiasm Declines

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  1. Habana

    Habana Well-Known Member

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    Strong enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton has ebbed since the renewal of the FBI’s email investigation.

    While vote preferences have held essentially steady, she’s now a slim point behind Donald Trump -- a first since May -- in the latest ABC News/Washington Post tracking poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates.


    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-leads-clinton-point-poll-enthusiasm-declines/story?id=43199459

    So that's a 13 point swing in one week according to ABC. i think what's more likely is the polls are starting to reflect reality instead of the media electioneering for Crooked Hillary
     
  2. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The very idea that there was ever real enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton is a media mirage.
    These polls still don't account for all of the newly registered voters who are swarming to Trumps side.
    This is going to make Reagan/ Carter look like kindergarten.
    Trump knows how to close a deal.
     
  3. Johnny Brady

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    More and more people are realising we're in for some great TV entertainment in the years ahead as Donald "Croc Dundee" Trump goes around strutting his stuff..:)

    [​IMG]
     
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    voter turnout is vital to the Democrat party

    we know that govt hacks will vote Democrat
    we know that union hacks will vote Democrat
    we know that the deceased vote Democrat
    we know that illegals vote Democrat
    we know that in certain urban precincts that over 100% of the voters vote Democrat

    despite all of those niches locked up, turnout is still needed.
    If Democrats can get the rules changed where people who intended to vote, but didn't go vote, would be counted as Democrat votes then Hillary will do just fine

    Democrats; the party which

    supports killing babies
    ran the Indians from their land
    fought against women voting
    fought against civil rights
    fought for slavery
    Destroyed our health insurance
     
  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, Clinton supporters need to get out and vote, otherwise Trump wins

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    those were conservatives, you know that right.....

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    yep, and it's not vital to the Republican party, so feel free to stay home and not vote republicans ;)

    .
     
  6. GeddonM3

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    Nope, that's democrats but the thing is they changed their ball game to something even more nefarious.

    A vote for democrats is a vote for true systematic racism, division of the country, anti constitution and plain and simple against everything this country is supposed to stand for.

    Democrats are the snake in the grass.
     
  7. YouLie

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    How many times have we read, "It won't affect a single vote" since Friday morning?
     
  8. Johnny Brady

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    Yeah I sometimes wonder whose side they're on.
    Take John Kerry for example, these are some of the things he's voted against over the years-
    B-1B Lancer
    B-2A Spirit
    F-15 Eagle
    F-16 Fighting Falcon
    M1 Abrams
    Patriot Missile
    AH-64 Apache Helicopter
    Tomahawk Cruise Missile
    Aegis Air-Defense Cruiser

    And he was for-
    Cutting the number of Navy submarines and their crews
    Reducing the number of light infantry units in the Army down to one
    Reducing tactical fighter wings in the Air Force
    Terminating the Navy's coastal mine-hunting ship program
    Forcing the retirement of no less than 60,000 members of the Armed Forces in one year.
    http://www.koreanwaronline.com/history/Kerry3.htm
     
  9. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The funny thing is, every network except Fox.
    I know at least one vote it changed.

    Doug Schoen
    Former Bill Clinton aide for 6 years of his presidency.
     
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    Don't talk facts, it confuses certain people.

    Actually, I don't think this swing can be attributed entirely to Friday morning. Some of it, maybe, but not all of it.

    Agreed. And if this thing does manage to go Trump's way, it will be very interesting to see how the MSM reacts. Once the media realizes it can no longer control the conversation, all hell will break loose. Just wait and see...
     
  11. MrNick

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    LOL...

    Lets take a look:

    supports killing babies

    Yep, democrats were behind that and support baby murder to this day. Margaret Sanger was a proud democrat, eugenicist and Nazi sympathizer.

    ran the Indians from their land

    Yep, that was Andrew Jackson - a democrat. You know the "Trail of Tears"?

    fought against women voting

    In 1878, California Republican Aaron A. Sargent introduced the 19th Amendment permitting women the right to vote. It was defeated by the Democratic-controlled Congress. Republicans re-introduced the bill every year with no success.
    fought against civil rights

    Do you know that democrats were completely opposed to ALL Civil Rights Acts introduced by republicans? even the 1964 act was opposed but PASSED only because republicans were overwhelmingly supportive of the act.

    Republicans only introduced numerous Civil Rights Act legislation in 1957, 1960 AND 1964 but democrats filibustered it.

    fought for slavery

    Democrats absolutely fought for slavery..... There is no debate about that at all.

    Destroyed our health insurance

    Really, are you trying to claim progressives didn't screw up healthcare and that our current healhcare system is completely solvent?
     
  12. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who knows, maybe they will go back to looking for ratings and profits.
     
  13. 911Defender

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    "Democrats; the party which

    supports killing babies
    ran the Indians from their land
    fought against women voting
    fought against civil rights
    fought for slavery
    Destroyed our health insurance[/QUOTE]

    Man, the Democrats who were not in power really accomplished a lot under Obama......I don't even know where to begin with this list.....so I'll just go to last entry...."Our Health Insurance"

    What do you know about health insurance? Are you a licensed insurance agent in multiple states? Do you have any specifics of how and why you are making this claim? Are you basing this comment on statements about increase premiums for insurance payors?

    Let's review....Health insurance premiums have gone up every year since the inception of health premiums and insurance....FACT....But in fact, health care premium increases are at an all time low for the last 20 years.
    But you say its ruined?
    Prior to Obamacare.......you had limits on insured policies, but Obamacare removed those limits.....so if some thing horrible happens and the bill creeps up in the millions (not an unusual event), you don't loose your home over it.
    Prior to Obamacare......if you had a pre-existing health condition, you had insurance waivers not covering that condition, and place you on a higher risk chart. Assuming you could even find insurance due to your pre-existing condition..............Obamacare eliminated the right of insurance companies to cancel you or not insure you because of that.
    Prior to Obamacare.....there were 25 million fewer Americans insured.

    Hmmmm, These certainly are strong arguments for DESTROYING our health insurance aren't they? .....Try Again. So far your not making an argument or stating fact.

    I can tell you that under Trump, if he decides to throw 25 million Americans under the bus and remove their insurance, he will do so by not only eliminating the Obamacare insured, but also nearly everyone else....You see there's a clause written within all insurance companies which states.......if you come off an insurance plan and have a pre-existing condition, there is no obligation at any cost to insure that person.

    I held a state license for 7 years and my expertise was insurance law.....I spent countless hours attempting to help people whose insurance companies, rather than helping them, rape them financially. I won't go into the corruptness of the private insurance industry.....but to state that Democrat's alone destroyed our health insurance is one of the most ignorant statements I have ever heard.....

    Study the subject before showing everyone else what little you know about it.

    PS..........Start with any States insurance laws passed in the last 20 years, what party and politicians pushed their bills forward. You are going to find out that the Bush Administration was the single greatest partner to the insurance companies....Not saying that Dems didn't play a part, but look at the writers of the insurance laws.. look who's names are on them.....
     
  14. Draco

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    Man, the Democrats who were not in power really accomplished a lot under Obama......I don't even know where to begin with this list.....so I'll just go to last entry...."Our Health Insurance"

    What do you know about health insurance? Are you a licensed insurance agent in multiple states? Do you have any specifics of how and why you are making this claim? Are you basing this comment on statements about increase premiums for insurance payors?

    Let's review....Health insurance premiums have gone up every year since the inception of health premiums and insurance....FACT....But in fact, health care premium increases are at an all time low for the last 20 years.
    But you say its ruined?
    Prior to Obamacare.......you had limits on insured policies, but Obamacare removed those limits.....so if some thing horrible happens and the bill creeps up in the millions (not an unusual event), you don't loose your home over it.
    Prior to Obamacare......if you had a pre-existing health condition, you had insurance waivers not covering that condition, and place you on a higher risk chart. Assuming you could even find insurance due to your pre-existing condition..............Obamacare eliminated the right of insurance companies to cancel you or not insure you because of that.
    Prior to Obamacare.....there were 25 million Americans less insured people....

    Hmmmm, These certainly are strong arguments for DESTROYING our health insurance aren't they? .....Try Again. So far your not making an argument or stating fact.

    I can tell you that under Trump, if he decides to throw 25 million Americans under the bus and remove their insurance, he will do so by not only eliminating the Obamacare insured, but also nearly everyone else....You see there's a clause written within all insurance companies which states.......if you come off an insurance plan and have a pre-existing condition, there is no obligation at any cost to insure that person.

    I held a state license for 7 years and my expertise was insurance law.....I spent countless hours attempting to help people whose insurance companies were rather than helping people, raping them financially. I won't go into the corruptness of the private insurance industry.....but to state that Democrat's alone destroyed our health insurance is one of the most ignorant statements I have ever heard.....

    Study the subject before showing everyone else what little you know about it.[/QUOTE]

    Noone believes this nonsense anymore, Obamacare is a night mare PERIOD

    You guys lost this fight by lying to the public, if you woudl have been honest about how the price was going to skyrocket it MIGHT have worked. But all of these "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" lies that were pushed harder and harder are finally catching up.
     
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    This national poll is irrelevant because the battleground states still favor Hillary.
     
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    More like irrelevant because Hillary will cheat to win , just like in her debates and everyday life.
     
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    "Noone believes this nonsense anymore, Obamacare is a night mare PERIOD

    You guys lost this fight by lying to the public, if you woudl have been honest about how the price was going to skyrocket it MIGHT have worked. But all of these "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" lies that were pushed harder and harder are finally catching up.[/QUOTE]

    The original health plan is only a fraction of the plan that was approved by Congress.....Like a lot of bills, it was compromised to the point of only remaining a shell of its intent....I know its too much to ask of you to read the original bill, but I'll challenge anyone who states that the current bill has any resemblance to the original. It was approved for failure, then fought State by State to deny the bill a chance to work.....I'm not lying to anyone...I'm stating fact. I'm not picking a political party or side here....I'm only a consumer who spent 7 years in the industry studying its problems....ONE last item.......You say Obama care cost have skyrocketed......do you have proof? Do you know that only 6% of the insured people of the US with Obamacare are involved in this increase? No? Maybe its something you should look into. 6%, that's all. And for most Republicans, they should be thrilled that poor families have to pay more now. They seem to care less about supporting a national health care system, childcare, and assistance than either party.
     
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    "You guys lost this fight by lying to the public, if you woudl have been honest about how the price was going to skyrocket it MIGHT have worked. But all of these "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" lies that were pushed harder and harder are finally catching up"


    for many Obamacare is a savior, for some it is a nightmare.... it needs tweaking, no doubt about that, but that will never happen as long as republicans control congress

    that quote meant if we had a pubic option you could choose it or private care, nice spin though

    ...
     
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    Seed those loser excuses while you still can!
     
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    When does the time limit run out?
     
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    True. But the point of national polls is that they show the trend. At some point, state polls reflect national direction.

    If trump can push his agenda while keeping the Wiki revelations in the forefront, key battlegrounds can easily swing his way over the last week.
     
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    national polls show one trend.. .and that is that we are a divided nation politically
     
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    HA! I KNEW IT!!!! As soon as the polls favor Trump, Hillary supporters will change their tune from "the polls portray the will of the people" to "the polls are irrelevant." Boy are Hillary supporters hypocritical.
     
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    The National polls do not favor Trump....They never have....they have tightened.....Also, look up the definition of the word irrelevant. The only polls that count are averaged polls and state polls.....Everyone has said this from day 1, they say that every election cycle. To get wrapped up in day to day polls from one source is like waterboarding yourself.....
     
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    The only poll that is truly accurate is the one held on election day. All other polls are meaningless.
     

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