Electoral College petition has almost 1 million votes

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  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You think?

    Tell, me, what do you think the guy who said this would do?

    "The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy. This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy! Our nation is totally divided! The world is laughing at us. Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble...like never before

    Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty."


    Maybe you should take your dear leader at his word.

    For once.
     
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    It's always the same. If you win, the system is just, if you lose, it's rigged. Now this petition seeks an end-run around the system we have used for 275 years because one side didn't get what it wanted, and demands a do-over.

    The electoral college didn't come along last week- it was formed after long consideration of all the options by the founding fathers, the authors of the constitution. They chose if for good reasons, and it can be researched easily online.

    Nothing is perfect. For example, the freedom of the press in America has allowed media to become propaganda machines spewing all kinds of BS around in favor of their candidates, and that distorts the vote by deceiving voters. Had CNN, the New York Times, Huffington Post and others not converted themselves into feces-slinging political slander rags, the popular vote would have probably been strongly in Trumps favor. But that's legal. Dishonorable, totally offensive to the real journalist, and unfortunately getting less revolting to the public these days. Our forefathers were smarter than we are.

    Protests about the electoral college are expected when his happens, as it has happened 4 times in the past. The protest too- will pass without much notice.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe they should be doing what your dear leader says?

    "The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy. This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy! Our nation is totally divided! The world is laughing at us. Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble...like never before

    Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty."


    Why aren't you following what your dear leader says?
     
  4. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hitler wasn't a liberal at all. The opposite. Unless you believe pathological liars.

    And since you just voted one into office, that explains your confused belief.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The question mirrors back on you- WHY are you not doing what all leaders (Clinton, Obama, Trump) are asking us to do- work together for a stronger nation. YOU are the one insisting of further divide and weakening. Childish. Having a tantrum on the floor at the grocery because you didn't get the candy you wanted childish.
     
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    Re: Hitler and the liberal/Nationalist Socialist, inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out.

    Have you been paying attention to the Democrat party's Sturmabteilung at these anti President elect Trump riots ?
     
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    The question is why we will never know. Maybe deleting 33000 emails has something to do with it
     
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    Like in 2000, the person with the most votes nationwide did not win because of our insane electoral “college”, and idiot voters again voted for third party candidates in swing states for 2016, in more than just Florida this time:

    “If Clinton were given all of Stein and Johnson’s votes, Trump still would have won Iowa, Ohio, Georgia, and North Carolina. But Clinton would have won Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan — enough to win her the election.”

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    Obama lost the popular vote ?

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    Another guy who missed civics class
     
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    I suggest you study the subject. The founders did not like pure democracy and unlike today they did not want everyone to vote. I guarantee they would not allow anyone on welfare to vote, hell they wouldnt allow welfare
     
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    Most of th founders required you be a landowner. In other words you had skin in the game. They didnt want you being able voting to take someone elses property by government force
     
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    The Nazi Party:
    Platform of the National-Socialist German Workers’ Party
    (1933)

    Looks like a liberal platform to me. Except it's nationalist instead of internationalist.
     
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    In case you missed it Hillary lost

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    Ever check out the Nazi platform ? They were national SOCIALIST's

     
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    Trump and Putin both want to do away with the electoral college... preferring a populist vote.

    I prefer we leave the Electoral College alone.
     
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    Right.

    Plus, they didn't allow slaves to vote. In fact they considered blacks to be less than fully human. They didn't allow women to vote, either.

    So, go àhead and get back to the queation.

    Or not.
     
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    What value do you see in the electoral college today?
     
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    LOL, evidently you didn't pay attention to the election.
     
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    Some drugs, like marijuana and heroin, have chemical structures that mimic that of a neurotransmitter that naturally occurs in our bodies. In fact, these drugs can “fool” our receptors, lock onto them, and activate the nerve cells. However, they don't work the same way as a natural neurotransmitter, and the neurons wind up sending abnormal messages through the brain, which can cause problems both for our brains as well as our bodies.

    Other drugs, such as cocaine and methamphetamine, cause nerve cells to release too much dopamine, which is a natural neurotransmitter, or prevent the normal recycling of dopamine. This leads to exaggerated messages in the brain, causing problems with communication channels. It’s like the difference between someone whispering in your ear versus someone shouting in a microphone.
    https://teens.drugabuse.gov/drug-facts/brain-and-addiction
     
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    I don't want a populist election.
     
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    I know people that believe the land owner argument, but I do not. Not everyone is fortunate enough to own land so I don't think that is the answer.
     
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    How about just being a "contributor" to the Union?!
     
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    Correct, because pure democracy is mob rule, we are a republic governed by a constitution that takes a super majority to change. They did not believe in welfare because they were Christians who took care of the orphaned, widowed, invalid etc. who could not work through their own families, churches and local social organizations. Those that could work, had to or suffer the consequences. There was no centralized government forcing the populous to pay indiscriminately those that can/can't work through a welfare system that is a self perpetuating cycle.
     
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    I agree and I don't want mob rule.......
     
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    The tax payers are the We the People" who have the right to vote .....

    "[Democracy] can only exist until a majority of voters <entitlement drags> discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury." -A. Tyler
     
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    Good luck with that Throughout our history as a nation, more than 99 percent of Electors have voted as pledged. deadhorse.gif
     

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