Electoral College petition has almost 1 million votes

Because of of Trump's electors voted for him in the general election and were hand picked by the Republican party?

 

I'll bet the farm that FL electors will all vote for Trump. Every single one.
Anyone have a farm they want to put up against that?
No?
Then hush.

 

Florida if it wanted could follow Nebraska's and Maine's example. That is awarding their electoral votes via congressional districts with whomever carries the state, the final two electoral votes. To do this all it takes is a state law as the constitution gives each state the ability to award their electoral votes how they see fit. As it stands today, 48 states are winner take all, 2 states by congressional districts.

Pennsylvania thought about doing this a couple of years ago, they decided against it as Pennsylvania figured that would dilute their electoral vote power. More to it than that, but if any state wanted to change how their electoral votes are allocated or awarded, all it takes is an act in their state legislature. Like I said, Maine and Nebraska already do it this way. Then the winner of each congressional district get that district's electoral vote. But I highly doubt that will ever be done in any states that has a decent number of electoral votes as it is seen as a dilution of power.

 

YOU really do need to study up on your Constitutional History. Truly.
Geographical representation was established along with popular representation.
When you, comprende, please get back to me.

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Moi
I could accept a popular vote only
if Black votes only count as
3/5ths of a Not Black vote.
Aleksander - y'know the 3/5ths rule

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In this election, with allocation of EV by proportion in the state, Trump wins with 281.

 

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Exactly. Suggesting that Clinton did not win the EC because of these supposed "dead" votes is baseless speculation.

 

Of course they will. They will be Republican party lackies.

And the half of Floridians who voted for Clinton are not having any Florida EC voters voting in accordance with their vote at all.

 

That wasn't his question. About the only proportional way would be by congressional district. Winner of a CD takes that CD electoral vote. State legislatures could do this without a constitutional amendment. I suppose state legislatures could also allocate their electoral votes via percentages of the final outcome in any state.

But I don't see any changes coming either way. The guy was from Florida, if they went to CD's or popular vote percentages, candidates wouldn't come calling. Too much of a headache to visit a state or CD for just one electoral vote. They don't go visiting Wyoming, North or South Dakota either. They concentrate on the big prizes such as Pennsylvania, Florida, those in play with the most electoral votes for the winner.

 

States can do it any way they want; with the 2 electors at large, proportional by total vote is as valid as anything.
It would take quite a while to re figure the election by congressional district; as the districts are roughly equal in population I doubt it would change much.

 

I don't remember making that claim, rather I wondered what the popular vote would look like if any invalid votes were eliminated, regardless of who the votes were cast for.

 

Why were you wondering about it?

 

You guys are just turning more and more people into right leaning voters by doing this, you do know that right?

If you would have just shut up and NOT demonized half the country you would have won.

Instead, you keep pushing and rioting and all this nonsense that is creating more people against you.

My righty friends thought the world ended when Obama got elected

It cracks me up that you think Trump getting elected is any different

As the video game world says

QQ


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Al Gore accepted defeat and gave congrats, then he had to take it back. Did you object then?

 

So true, Rachael Maddow started her show off with a 15 minute presentation about some accident involving a nuclear weapon in the 1980s

I was so fascinated by her being so off topic that I continued to watch!

Finally she got to the point that "when disaster strikes we need to be innovative" and I just groaned

I guess this is their idea of "innovation"

I didn't even vote for Trump but the actions of the left right now are making me more and more happy each day


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I pose this question to myself after almost every national election. Not really sure why. It is a curiosity I have.

 

Petition has 2.8 million supporters.

 

I wonder what would happened if Comey hadn't grossly violated the rules to besmirch Clinton. I wonder what would have happened if Putin didn't manipulate gullible American voters into supporting his agenda. I wonder what would have happened had N.C. not disenfranchised voters.

We can wonder all day long.

 

Comey getting involved in the election, may have given Trump the win.

I hope he dies from a painful disease

 

Maine and Nebraska do it by Congressional district with two at large for the winner of the state. The thing is if these guys complaining about the winner take all method utilized by 48 states today, then they need to work with their state legislature to get it change. You're absolutely correct, a state can award their electors however they see fit.

It wasn't until 1824 that most states went to the popular vote for elect the electors, prior to then it was done by the state legislatures. It wasn't until after the civil war that all states went to the popular vote in some form to choose the electors of their state.

 

In 2012, Donald Dump called for "revolution", cause Obama won the Electoral Vote but lost the Popular vote.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/11/trump-is-election-nights-most-unhinged-goper.html

 

Again, who cares? Was there a revolution? Was there any protests whatsoever? These little snowflakes are going to be introduced to a world of pain if they don't retreat back to their safe spaces

 

Wonderful, isn't it?

 

There are 50 states comprising the Federal Government,
as always in fairness to all states majority rules.

 

Sure. America can tolerate being non-democratic to some extent.

However:

If each California voter had the same electoral college representation as does a voter in Wyoming, California would have 199 electoral votes.

Instead, they have 55.

And, that is a MASSIVE disparity, leaving us a LONG ways from democracy.


It is more than legit to ask why a Wyoming voter should have 3 or 4 times more voting power in selecting a direction that affects California in economy, in agricultural production to the US, in immigration direction as a border state, in gun control where CA cities (and population as a whole) face very different problems than does Wyoming, in education funding where CA industry/corporations have VERY different education requirements, where minority populations are FAR more significant, where environmental protection is far more important (due to population concentration, water scarcity), etc., etc., etc.

Beyond that, the fact that these differences are so significant leaves CA residents with far less input in terms of the messages and policies set by candidates in order to win elections by catering to those in states where there is an actual contest.

And, this disparity is NOT limited to these two states, obviously.

Claiming that the electoral college is more fair than democracy is just plain stupid.

 

And these laws may not hold up in the Supreme Court. In 1952, the Supreme Court ruled in Ray v. Blair that states have the right to require electors to pledge to vote for the candidate whom their party supports, and the right to remove potential electors who refuse to pledge prior to the election, but they do not have the right to demand that an elector vote a certain way. Essentially, Ray v. Blair proves that an elector is a free agent.

Oh, and these so-called "faithless electors" actually have almost altered the outcome of an election one time in US history.

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