Trump's victory tour divided out nation

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Beautiful! Keep it up! The butthurt tour is amazing!
     
  2. Belch

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    There's no need to defend him so why bother? Trying to do that with his detractors is a fool's errand because they'll find a reason to hate the way he ties his shoes if that's all there is to hate about him.

    He won, Hillary lost, and now it's a matter of hoping that he keeps at least some of his campaign promises.
     
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    Trump didn't exactly get along with FOX News either. Remember his feud with Megan Kelly? There for awhile the only show he was on was Hannity which was a huge backer of him. Then he began to expand it again with Fox and Friends. Hillary during the campaign was giving interviews with just Oprah and the View and went almost a year between press conferences. Not saying that is right, it isn't.

    I have to give Obama credit, he did a couple of press conferences or interviews with O'Riley and with Wallace of Fox News. I don't know what Trump has planned, perhaps he doesn't himself. I do believe he plans on having the daily press briefings, but he is going to shake them up. Rumor has it his press secretary will be not only answering question from the press corps, but from average citizens who tweeted or e-mailed them in.
     
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    I saw a short interview of Rump’s press secretary, Sean Spicer, by Judy Woodruff the other night. Man, the guy is plain nasty. He was so aggressive that he wouldn’t wait for a question to be finished before jumping in to rattle off a bunch of lies in trying to defend Trump. Of course, the fact that Spicer comes off as a bully and a pain in the ass just means that he fits in perfectly with the rest of the thugs Trump has chosen to staff his administration.

    I think Trump’s four years are going to be a nightmare. He’s clearly nuts.
     
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    When there is something to defend him over, I will. He isn't even President yet, we'll talk about things then.
     
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    So Trump should thank the MSM for smearing him daily? Thank the facebook tools for calling him Hitler, racist misogynist, and every other name? Thank those who said they fear for their daughters? Seriously, wtf does that even mean? Thank all the celebrities saying he'll destroy the world? How about the people who says he won illegitimately? What about those that think Russia elected him? Who else should he thank?


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  7. Sandy Shanks

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    Your view is extremely pessimistic and most would not accept it. Basically, what you are saying is the status quo is intolerable but it is the status quo and we must accept it for the foreseeable future. That is pure nonsense, and once again an example of apologizing for Trump. You know the man is incapable of uniting the country so you argue that he shouldn't have to. Since June 2015 Trump people have been apologizing for him. "He didn't really mean it." "He really meant to say this." "It was just sarcasm." "He was joking." "He is not a politician so he can't be taken seriously."

    All that is a crock. He is the President-elect; he should start acting like a President, and it is the job of any new President to unify the country after a heated contentious election, or at least attempt to do so, not make a bad situation worse. Americans shouldn't have to accept anything less and apologizing for Trump's weaknesses is getting real old.
     
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    The nation was united before Barack Obama became president and racism was just a fading memory. Now thanks to Obama's radicalism and race-agitating the nation is massively divided and race wars are an actual possibility. That makes Obama a Divider and NOT a Uniter. Any leftist talking about how a Right of Center President is a divider an unintentional humorist.
     
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    That comment was disingenuous. It ignores the fact that Trump is performing badly and you are apologizing for his doing so. It is an excuse to ignore his many miscues.That type of reasoning means you don't have to defend him. Great, his detractors will continue on unabated.
     
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    Yes, that is the exact message I've been receiving from Pres. Obama the last 8 years.... GTFOH
     
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    Trump appeared on O'Reilly quite a few times as well, and he was one of Trump's sponsors as well although he pretended not to be.

    "I do believe he plans on having the daily press briefings, but he is going to shake them up." Was that an improper use of a personal pronoun? I think you meant Sean Spicer, Trump's choice for press secretary, will hold daily press briefings, certainly not Trump. I agree. With Trump's incessant tweeting, they will be very interesting. Spicer will spending all his time trying to explain what Trump really meant with his latest tweets.

    Kelly and Shepherd Smith notwithstanding, Fox News virtually sponsored Trump. Juan Williams and Geraldo Rivera got in their liberal licks but they were way over-matched by Trump sympathizers.
     
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    No, we will talk about things now. Trump is not going to get off that easy with all his screw-ups.
     
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    "So Trump should thank the MSM for smearing him daily?" Who said that? I really have no idea what you are talking about. The OP concerns what Trump said on his victory lap, not what MSM has said.
     
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    I recommend you open your window wide and just shout it out to the ozone.

    You're referring to Hillary aren't you? She's the one who lost.
     
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    I could never see what the Republicans saw in Trump, but on the other hand, neither could I see what the Democrats saw in Hillary Clinton. Both nominations left me scratching my head in wonderment. Wondering what the heck were our two major parties doing.

    Come to think of it, Trump got along well with those on Fox and Friends also.
     
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    While Obamas apology tours unified the u.s.?
     
  17. Sandy Shanks

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    This is not about Obama and the nation was not united before Obama. The nation was bitterly divided by an illegal war started by Bush, a war without end and going very badly. Bush's popularity dropped to 25% (Obama's current popularity is 56%) and there was talk of impeachment for lying to Congress to obtain an AUMF for the invasion of Iraq. That is not exactly unity.

    There has always been racism in the U.S. It didn't begin with Obama. The fact is that racial tension under Obama is the most recent. It only seems like it is worse. Then there is social media which is far more prevalent than before. Everybody today has a cell phone, and every racial encounter throughout the land is on video and shown on the MSM. No wonder it seems worse today than before.
     
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    Its not just a slogan.

    What I said is straight up fact. Non debatable.

    Liberals have been furthering double standards and racism against whites for years. You care nothing about injustices done to anyone but minorities, and are ok with freedoms given only to minorities while taking them away from white people. No wonder trump won.
     
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    I'll take a victory tour over an apology tour any day.
     
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    Obama is not the subject of this thread, Trump is. However, I will address your comment. There certainly were Bush holdouts (Bush's popularity reached a low of 25% in his second term and he was persona non grata during the 2008 election because McCain wanted nothing to do with him on the campaign trail) who objected to Obama's "apology" tour. However, the vast majority of the nation were sympathetic to Obama's message. He apologized for America's outright aggression in Iraq that had disastrous results. In addition 5,000 dead Americans with another 30,000 wounded, the U.S. destroyed a nation, its infrastructure and its ability to govern along with an estimated one million dead civilians.

    The U.S. was totally responsible for the carnage and it is for that Obama apologized. It was a righteous tour unlike Trump's gloating performance to satisfy his huge narcissistic, arrogant persona and putdown of the 65 million Americans who voted against him, exceeding his total vote count by 2.8 million.
     
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    A victory tour was much needed. Obama divided the country worse than any President in over a century. If anything, the victory tour is the best thing to happen.

    Didn't vote for the dude, but I'm thankful Hillary isn't here to start WW3.
     
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    The guy isn't even president yet, so how can he be performing badly?

    But I'm very serious about there being no need to defend him from the left. They don't matter any more.
     
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    Bull crap.....
     
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    Clinton won california, not the nation, and thus took all of calif's electoral votes. Trump won the nation according to the constitution. Look it up. Perhaps you should have opened that history book they gave you in school. Looking at the cover didn't help you much.
     
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    Your factual arguments are intriguing.

    In other developments, President-elect Donald Trump said Saturday he will dissolve his charitable foundation amid efforts to eliminate any conflicts of interest before he takes office next month. The revelation came as the New York attorney general's office investigates the foundation following media reports that foundation spending went to benefit Trump's campaign. A 2015 tax return posted on the nonprofit monitoring website GuideStar shows the Donald J. Trump Foundation acknowledged that it used money or assets in violation of IRS regulations — not only during 2015, but in prior years. In addition, the Trump Foundation supported Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi.

    But that is not what Trump is saying. He said, "I will be devoting so much time and energy to the presidency and solving the many problems facing our country and the world. I don't want to allow good work to be associated with a possible conflict of interest." He also bragged about the foundation's good works. "The foundation has done enormous good works over the years in contributing millions of dollars to countless worthy groups, including supporting veterans, law enforcement officers and children." He also has stated, "My wonderful son, Eric, will no longer be allowed to raise money for children with cancer because of a possible conflict of interest with my presidency," Trump tweeted.

    So, let's see if I have this right. Trump misuses the Trump Foundation himself, no one but him is talking about a conflict of interest involving his charity which he hasn't contributed to since 2008, so he decides to cut off aid to terminally ill kids because of a potential conflict of interest which doesn't exist. At the same time he is keeping his business in the family which will result in a conflict of interest on steroids. What a crock.

    The man is a complete jerk.
     

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