Mankind's Greatest Accomplishment?

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  1. KAMALAYKA

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    Actually, China was technologically and economically superior to Europe in the Middle Ages. Marco Polo returned to Europe with knowledge of gunpowder, plumbing, paper money, city planning, postal services, daily hygiene, and so forth. The Europeans took this knowledge and decided to conquer the globe, which spurred greater advancements.

    Of course, Asia has since reclaimed technological superiority. Have you seen how awesome Japanese robots are? :p
     
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    He obviously said we made it to the 21st century, why is that so hard to understand?
     
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    If the criteria for "greatest accomplishment" is to leave a sign that we existed somewhere in the universe then there is an entire debris field surrounding the earth of things that mankind has flung into orbit. Granted these might be incinerated in a couple of billion years time when the sun expands to engulf the earth but they are still out there. In addition aren't there a couple of Mars probes that were lost that could also end up wandering endlessly through the universe too? As far Voyager surviving no one knows what lies in it's path. It might be wiped out by debris as it tries to make it through the Oort cloud.

    To be brutally frank mankind's "greatest accomplishment" is terraforming the planet to such an extent that we might even wipe ourselves out. If there were to be a sentient species investigating the history and geology of the plant in a billion years from now they would probably refer to the era of mankind as one of the great extinction events.

    That might not be a "worthy" accomplishment from our own perspective but the species that adapts, survives and ultimately achieves sentience in the future will appreciate that we made it possible for them to exist, thrive and hopefully learn from our mistakes.

    In summary mankind's "greatest accomplishment" might be to serve as a warning of what not to do to a planetary ecosystem.
     
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    ... in the Middle Ages.
     
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    I suppose that those on the left consider "racism" to be the greatest human accomplishment. It is an all purpose club with which to bash ideas they don't like.

    You could try to counter with accomplishments that non-white people have made, but they are few and far between.

    What is inaccurate?

    Subjective, surely. We all have our ideas about which are great human accomplishments, but inaccurate? misleading? Please explain.

    The greatest human discovery? Thermodynamics.

    My vote for greatest accomplishment? The moon landing, which fulfilled human dreams of millennia.
     
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    The Japanese and Chinese have a great advantage in their unicultural societies.

    But you post reminds me that Bertrand Russell though the greatest human invention was soap. With the invention of soap, the lower classes didn't smell bad all the time paving to way to democracy.
     
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    I will not bothering to tell you I am not left leaning again as you will not listen or believe it. Instead I will simply point out that thousands of non-white people have made millions of contributions to worldwide progress in the sciences and every other aspect of society. You are of course free to cherry pick based on your obvious position of racial preference but that does not negate the well documented and understood reality everyone else lives in. Thermodynamics is indeed a powerful theory that has allowed for many profound and world changing discoveries and progress....and the moon landings were not accomplished exclusively by white guys.
    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...k-women-nasa-female-scientists-hidden-figures
     
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    Arabs speak Arabic. Jesus never did.
     
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    Jesus was semitic.
     
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    The freezer. Game changer and bigly responsible for mass urbanisation.
     
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    I don't want to be chauvinistic, but tinned can enable greatly that before.
     
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    Language.
     
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    Language allowed us to pass on knowledge from one to the other. It forced us to understand ourselves and others in a progression that led to new concepts being defined by words, new ideas by sentences, new knowledge by word of mouth. It led directly to the written form which then led to passing on knowledge in a more universal manner. Language is the key to everything, all humans start with learning a language. As for singular achievements or discoveries, it is hard to argue against electricity and how to use it but the printing press might just surpass it. Some said religion, that is not an achievement, it is an obstacle.
     
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    I would greatly agree with you. For me, a big part of the history is determined by the evolution of the techniques of communication. Beyond language, writting enabled cities and big empires to be build, laws could be written and consulted by everybody, every big empires always relied evily on a strong class of litterate people. The technical and scientific revolution in Europe was heavily enabled by the printing, printing break down the cost of the books, industrial printing, then internet is another step in the quickness of information.
     
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    Indeed, but it was the ability to freeze produce which enabled fresh produce to feed massive cities. Think of a city the size of Tokyo without it?

    Who would intentionally move to a city where they only eat out of a can ;)
     
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    I agree it's a very important step in humanity, I would not put in the greatest accomplishement even if freezing food is a big part of a massive achievement : preventing starvation for most of humanity.
     
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    Semitic does not equate to Arabic.
     
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    BTW
     
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    Man's next-to-greatest accomplishment is capitalism. It's greatest accomplishment is the realisation that it is only a stage towards the birth of a genuine humanity in socialism.
     
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    No no no no,

    He was a jew.

    Everyone knows this.
    Except you clearly.
     
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    Our greatest accomplishment is not killing ourselves, yet.......

    Going to space is 2nd.

    That probe is probably long gone, batteries dead etc, it will be/already is smashed to bits on some asteroid by now, it will not survive long way out there broken and alone.

    Like some one else said, the trash pile orbiting our planet will likely live on well past us, as will a lot of our destruction/garbage.

    We are but the blink of an eye in the history of this planet, let alone the solar system, galaxy, or universe.
    When we get wiped out, and we will eventually, nobody will ever know we existed, unless bones survive whatever kills us off like the dinosaurs.
     
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    Do you want to know something crazy? "Arab" is an ethnicity. "Judaism" is a religion. You can be both.
     
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    Lol. There are so many languages in the Arab world today. You think all Arabs speak Arabic, or that Arabic is spoken only by Arabs?
     
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    White Europe was technologically superior from about 1600 to the 1970s.
     

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