Is healthcare a "right?"

Ok. Rephrase the question: Is it right and should it be legal to ROB or ENSLAVE another person to provide low or no cost anything to someone else?

 

I didn't ask you to rephrase the question. He's a collectivist, and nothing you can say will deter him from advocating ever-greater government control of your life.

 

My question is for everyone not just the person who's post I replied to.

 

Whose entire human rights are being taken away?

 

So you only want to take away a few? That's not reassuring.

 

Could you show me where I said I wanted to take any away? Thanks

 

It doesn't matter now. There is clearly a healthcare emergency. So the next Dem President can simply declare so and provide funds to provide health care for the 44 millions people with no health insurance, and 38 million under insured.

Whether it's a right or not is irrelevant. IT'S A NATIONAL EMERGENCY!

 

It's implicit at 8:04.

 

Are you joking? People without insurance get treatment, perhaps not all they want, but they do.

Also, most health problems are attributable to unhealthy lifestyles. You don't have to remind me that there are children with leukemia. I know that. Give to St. Judes ,Hospital

 

Hmm. If this is an emergency, apparently it is the fault of Obamacare, because there was no emergency before that. It is also clear that a border will will go a long way to prevent millions of uninsured poor people from crashing the party.

 

So no evidence whatsoever. Got it.

 

Our system works similar. The poor with no insurance can still get health care.........

 

If that is

So Medicare for all has nothing to do with Socialism. It is great that we are in agreement.
Now, what we talking about here is about profit for doctors and hospitals. My opinion is that they should not have extraordinary income, there is absolutely nothing in their profession that make them so unique that their average salary is three times greater then average salary on the market. So, the first step would be to stop government sabotage and artificial limit on the number of hospitals and doctors.
Once the limit is lifted the market forces will bring prices down, and then the transition will be very smooth.

The problem however is an American people, they stubbornly think that everything that is related to Health Care should be extra expensive, at least double in price. That is another story that no one is willing to discuss, but no reforms are possible without reduction in health care prices.

 

This is about primary care, it is not enough.
Health care includes all levels of care.

 

There are government sponsored hospitals that affiliate with the primary care clinics.

 

No, you don't get it. I'm sorry.

 

Yes, it is called taxation, the cornerstone of Democracy and Capitalism.

 

If you go to that hospital they will send you a bill e.g. $300,000, which is all your asset.
We are talking about middle class not about poor people

 

Hardly, health insurance isn't required.

https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/

Go ahead plug in your zip code. Just the preponderance of this system being in place would insure the SCOTUS deny an health care emergency.

 

Where do you get this stuff from? If you go to a government sponsored hospital and bring proof of income, you are charged based on your ability to pay. Please stop spreading untruths.

 

I totally get you are unable to back up your claim.

 

Except that only about 20% of hospitals are govt sponsored. Meaning that most people don’t have access to such hospitals where they are charge based on their ability to pay.

 

Well, you need to show that the fraud you are concerned about has nothing to do with people acquiring service without having a legitimate Medicare account. That is, there are peoplee who are "sharing" a Medicare account. Medicare for all is a SOLUTION to that kind of fraud.

There are other types of faud which are not specific to Medicare, too. Cases where insurance companies get defrauded with or without the help of providers. That kind of fraud is a general problem, NOT a problem attributable to Medicare.

I haven't seen any cite from you that suggests Medicare for all would be an opportunity for more fraud than we see today.

Plus, we see the experience of other countries, which demonstrate less healthcare expenditure per capita - which includes any fraud that such systems might have.

Overall, you just aren't providing a legitimate analysis.

And, even if your analysis were to be accepted it wouldn't form a justification for rejecting Medicare for all.

 

ER care for indigents is gigantically inefficient as has been shown over and over again.

It is a case of spending our tax dollars on the care of indigents in the most inefficient way that can be deviised.

For you to tout that as a soluton is rather surprising. Overall, you seem to be interested in spending LESS.

 

What kind of a question is that?