The GOP vs We The People

Well of course democrats would not want to investigate anything that would not be beneficial to them. Duh.

 

Are you saying that you want to forbid certain individuals access to the court system?

And who will decide that, a panel of liberals?

 

Which allegations are going uninvestigated? Are they allegations that the Trump Campaign would be financially responsible for investigating?

 

Virus, Schmirus, this was an excuse to illegally change the rules.

 

Why are democrats so afraid to prove there was no election fraud?

 

It cannot be done unconstitutionally like in PA.

 

Democrats were complaining about it as late as 2020.

 

Lol...and how many of those votes for trump were fraudulent?
We know he lies and cheats as much as he can, so the question is, how badly did trump cheat this time?
The fact that he still lost is not proof that he didn't cheat, just that he is an incompetent.
But we already knew that, too.

 

Yet the cheating happened in democrat controlled areas only. Go figure.

 

The nazis said the same thing after they lost. And most of us don't share your paranoid DNA fantasies since we have a more positive view of what America is. That sort of drag-me-down-with-you bullshit is common for sore losers.

 

Like in Phila

Oh wait -I debunked that, must have missed your acknowledgment of it

 

Lol...nothing to 'go figure' since that's a lie that you people have been unable to back up since trump started his loser tantrum.

 

If Democrat attorneys think tens of thousands of votes were switched from Biden to Trump, then they should be filing claims in court. That's what any reasonable party would do.

 

Philly has been democrat since 1952.

 

No kidding, but your point was how much Biden did better in Philadelphia than Hillary did in 2016 because of rampant fraud

That was false

 

Trump’s loyalists, who are they?



No longer pro-free marketers.....Protectionism and unfair tariffs.

No longer fiscal conservatives.....the 2017-2019 Repub’s majority increased the deficit from $585 billion to $776 billion over two years.

No longer Tea Party members/15 non-negotiable core believers......Eliminating deficits, a balance budget, lowering the debt is a must.....Yeah, right!

No longer pro-individual responsibility.....main reason why we had a Covid19 Summer Wave, and today, record high daily cases/Hospitalizations, and soon, daily deaths.

No longer constitutionalists......Argumentative, but lots of examples.

No longer pro-moral and ethical standards.....Trump’s lies, and his BS were all cheered, applauded, and defended.

No longer pro-Tenth Amendment....Trump infringing on State’s powers, such as; Mail-in ballot/election laws/rules.

No longer Critical Thinkers.....All have surrendered their sovereign thoughts to Trump.

No longer pro-Allies....Trump praised/defended Dictators, Brutal leaders, Authoritarian regimes, Poisoners/Murderers, and ironically, criticized our Allies.

What else?

 

Oh... there are tons of anecdotes. Or did you think that only Giuliani could come up with tales of horror? It's just a matter of looking for them. On my neighborhood NextDoor, one guy told about a family member in South Florida, who has voted in all presidential elections, but suddenly found the polling place where he usually voted had been closed. So he had to look for all over to find out where it was he needed to vote. He went to the Local Library, and learned that he had been purged from the voting list. He had to drive almost an hour to the supervisor of elections so he could cast a provisional ballot which, to this day, he has no idea if it was counted. But when at the Supervisor of Election's office, he learned that there had been many cases of voters purged from the lists of his heavily Hispanic county. Seeing the hassle that it was to vote, some of them decided to not even bother. THAT should have been investigated.

There are tons of anecdotes all over the country. Like Giuliani's

Why would the Trump campaign be responsible for investigating them if, as you say, it's the duty of this administration?

I was expecting an outrage from you. Not excuses. Unless, of course, you were not actually... what one could call "sincere". What is the opposite of "sincere"? The word slipped my mind....

 

No, a reasonable party wouldn't file a court case for fraud unless there was strong evidence of it. By contrast, the Trump party assumes fraud, accumulates anecdotes that can be interpreted as consistent with that assumption, uses this as the basis for frivolous lawsuits, and meanwhile makes public statements that the other party has the burden to prove an absence of fraud.

 

Tell that to this guy:


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Its a matter for We The People to look for them and report them. Have these allegations you list been reported? If so, to whom?

Different locales have different procedures. In some areas, the campaign is responsible for paying the cost of a recount, for example. Neither of us, I hope, would expect a campaign to fund a recount at the behest of the opposition.

Where procedure dictates the authorities are responsible, I do expect the administration to take all allegations seriously. So, which allegations have been properly submitted and yet ignored?

 

No, I’m saying certain individuals should have access to the court system, but not waste the courts or the peoples time with baseless accusations. Bring some actual evidence.

Revisiting civics, electors from the winning party of a state are selected to vote for the candidate who won after states have finalized their certification. You could call it “a panel of liberals” or “a panel of conservatives” but that’s how the system has worked for nearly two centuries.

 

No! You said it was this administration's duty to investigate them.

The recount that Trump demanded in Georgia ended up giving 87 more votes to Biden. Is there an investigation as to why those 87 votes for Biden weren't counted the first time?

Look... all I wanted was to illustrate how ridiculous it is to claim that what this administration wants is to pursue clean elections. That is such a naïve assertion that I don't think even the people who say it actually believe it. It's an excuse!

That is the category in which your claim that you think this is being done because "it's a duty" falls.

If you go out hunting for anecdotes, you will find hundreds. But they are meaningless. Simple errors that were neither made with any malice, nor they in any way would they alter the results of the elections. This administration knows this. The only real purpose of this is to collect donations from gullible Trump supporters. Because he will need them for his legal fees in criminal court when he is out of office. The problem for Republicans is that, all that money that they are contributing to Trump's criminal defense team, is money they are not contributing to the Georgia run-offs. Which Republicans should have won in a landslide. But Trump has somehow managed to make them competitive. And all of this "fraud" nonsense, could turn off just enough voters, who would think "why vote if this is rigged anyway", might well give the Democrats the edge they need. Maybe... maybe not. But the fact is that all these excuses are not going to help the Republicans.... anywhere or ever. They will only help Donald Trump. Which is the one and only thing that Donald Trump gives a crap about anyway.

 

Right, asking to overturn a election—even throw out 2.5 million votes, without widespread evidence, is unconstitutional.

 

Its been proven...

Officials from both parties, from Arizona to Pennsylvania to Georgia, have come out saying there is no evidence of election fraud, even in the Georgia recount.

 

Safety is not a excuse. Especially when its one of the worst pandemics the country has experienced in 100 years.