The GOP vs We The People

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Balto, Nov 28, 2020.

  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    I take it you're referring to the four year long screaming toddler tantrum from the Progressive Left?

    Or did you mean something else?
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since he suggests that there was election interference in favor of a swing to a Biden win, then "He ain't brown." See how easy that is? The guy is obviously a white supremacist with an extreme suntan.
     
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  3. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Likely.

    Still, if they do disparage him or his findings, we get to call them racists - according to their own mandate. Nice!
     
  4. ECA

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    No I wasn’t referring to the four year long screaming toddler tantrum from the progressives, which was ridiculous in its own way.
    I was of course referring to the screaming toddler tantrum by Trump and his followers regarding the “stolen election”.
     
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    Nice deflection.
     
  6. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What the Democratic party has devolved into is a embarrassment. The Democrats won over 50 of the wealthiest counties in the country, have the Hollywood and wealthy elites, the billionares and the media and line thier pockets with money becoming millionaires themselves.

    They have abandoned the middle class America.

     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL Bill Maher (millionaire Democrat) tried to blame the crazy Far Left Progressives for Dems losing ground in the House and Senate. A Biden administration will be a disaster, given the fight between the two parties each trying to inhabit one DNC.

    I have considered that a Biden win might be "good" for the right since conservatives won't see Biden as legitimate and the Progressives hate Biden.

    Could be fun.

     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Weaponizing......that word became popular when Obama "weaponized" the IRS, The FBI, and the Judicial System. Remember, they had the 1st insurance policy then and the second was defrauding the 2020 election!
     
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  9. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Thing is when the left had reason to distrust the outcome of the election, there was evidence by our Intelligence Agency that gave reason to believe the election had been interfered with. Such evidence is lacking this time around. Bigly.
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Its not up to me. Evidence goes a long way in court to working in your favor. No evidence to provide to the judge and you really have no case.
     
  11. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    They tried that in PA, and failed.
     
  12. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    I do know the difference, and I also know judges have mentioned a lack of any evidence one way or another in their rulings.
     
  13. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    The evidence was fabricated by the Obama admin and hillary, you had nothing real. Didn't stop you from believing lies and obvious falsehoods.Hell you still believe most of them because you want to believe them.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I sure can: Trump ordering investigations of only the counties that would benefit him. Trump undermining the electoral system, and producing death threats to poll workers and authorities. Trump asking for donations to supposedly "fight voter fraud", but not using them for that purpose. Trump designating a golf club that is not intended as a residence as his residential address. Trump designated Post Master, DeJoy, removal of mail boxes, and the overall unprecedented delay of mail in the days ahead of the elections..... Many many many... These are the things this administration should investigate. Because they are Federal. Whether some voter standing in line to vote saw a black guy who they found scary, ... or any idiotic claims of the kind, are a matter to be dealt with by local authorities... if at all.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The only question you couldn't address was whether or not I was wrong. For that reason, your post is what is referred to as an ad hominem. A logical fallacy that is frowned upon by rational intelligent people. As well as an implicit admission that I am right.
     
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    Well of course you are right since it's you view.

    You would deny certain Americans access to the court system because of your political preference.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isn't that what's happening now?

    So what is the problem again?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Read again: I would deny access to frivolous lawsuits.

    Don't confuse your.... your reading comprehension mistakes with the real argument I'm making.
     
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    Well said.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some of those warrant an investigation. Though I wouldn't be expecting Trump anyone else to order an investigation into something being alleged against themselves. Have these concerns been reported to the FBI or perhaps the Biden Campaign (whom I bet they have some pull to get this looked at)?
     
  21. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you agree that Trump put partisan politics before country. That was my point.
     
  22. Hoosier8

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    It ain’t over till it’s over.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you're grouping a potentially fraudulant election in with 'partisan politics' then I can see why you would think that. Trump believes he and 70,000,000 Americans were cheated out of a win, and I believe there's enough of a chance that he's correct that he should pursue every legal avenue of recourse to correct it. And Biden still has a month or so to pursue any irregularities that he believes may have defrauded his voters as well. And I think he should do the same. They both still have a month or so to do just that.
     
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  24. Golem

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    Please do not confuse a compilation of anecdotes, ZERO evidence and, even it there were evidence, would be so scarce it wouldn't change crap; with the real fraud that happens on every election . In the form of voter suppression, intimidation and gerrymandering.

    The musings of a crazy asterisk President* are not meant to be taken seriously by any serious person. The only thing they have accomplished is that dozens of poll workers and volunteers now receive death threats from nuts who support the idiot. This will make the job less "appetizing" during future elections.

    If you think elections (even those supervised by Republicans) are fraudulent, then protest by abstaining! But let the rest of us enjoy our democracy.
     
  25. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Attempts to overturn a election, without evidencr. Trying to nullify the will of the people. GOP governors were joining the growing coup in Pennsylvania to pressure legislators. Given the House in PA is split, and the Trump campaign tried in courts with Republican judges, its not impossible to pressure Pennsylvania to go against yhe will of their voters.

    Seven electors we t rogue in 2016, a couple of them in Washington state. We are more divided now than we were in 2016. The notion we could see a whole bunch of faithless electors out of rebellion is unnerving in itself.
     

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