Why Hayek was Right About Nazis Being Socialists

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not why I said that to you. So you blame your poem on others.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you agree that murdering millions of Jews and invading all of Europe, was NOT self-defense?

    good.

    so which military acts committed by the Nazis, were self-defense?

    an aggressor cannot claim self-defense. Not legally and not morally.

    Germany was the aggressor in WW2.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fill me in at the same time. That was not self defense.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we never "attacked" Germany.

    we came to the aid of our allies, who were brutally and unprovoked invaded and attacked by Germany.

    please lay off the historical revisionism.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Germany was attacked by our forces first in Africa, followed by Italy and later in Germany.

    If you were a resident of Germany at the time, you saw that as self defense.

    Germany was the aggressor in France, Belgium and Denmark along with others and those aggression were not self defense.

    Try not to make me the goat for what Hitler did and I will appreciate that a lot.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am shocked you never learned of our attacks on Germany.
     
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    Since it was the only thing I wrote in that post You are either a liar a fantasist or drunk, I think it might well be the later. Goodnight.
     
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    ONLY IF YOU WERE A NAZI PSYCHOPATH.

    aggressors cannot claim "self-defense".

    Germany was the aggressor in EVERY nation they occupied.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol...poor Nazis.

    attacked by the evil bad USA.

    why did we attack innocent Germany?

    :p
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have not seen me ever saying that when Hitler attacked, he defended.

    When Eisenhower attacked, was Germany defending?
     
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    Shook Well-Known Member

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    I am of an age where I no longer care. I get it. It has been going on forever.

    My education basically sucked, and I had a lot of it.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    an aggressor cannot be attacked.

    get that out of your head.

    if someone tries to kill your wife, and you shoot the would-be murderer, and the murderer shoots back at you, was he simply "defending himself"????????????

    wtf bro???
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    according to @Robert, if someone tries to kill you, and you punch him back, the attacker is now justified in killing you cause he was only "defending himself".

    wow
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ron you earned my slashing away part of your statements.

    When was any American state attacked by Hitler?

    And do not tell me about the Germans Roosevelt had executed. They did not attack our country. But they were executed.

    Frankly I think that is fine with me. How about with you?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is your invention, not my invention.

    Ron you got pissed when you believed I misquoted you. Then you pull this skanky trick.

    Maybe you did not serve in our Army in Germany but I did. I served when the topic of Hitler was very much current discussion.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if an innocent person is attacked by a criminal, i have the right to defend that innocent person.

    the criminal cannot claim "self-defense" and then attack me.


    Germany invaded France, France was our ally. We came to the aid of France. Germany was not "defending themselves" when we came to the aid of France.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What aggression did Hitler pull on FDR?

    I know what he did to France, Poland, Belgium, Denmark and the countries of Scandinavia plus in Africa, Greece, etc.. But when did Hitler invade the USA?
     
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    Eisenhower was the hero of my country when I was a lad. He was maybe the last politician that didn't create animosity within my family. Eisenhower was everything right with the world. Looking back, probably the happiest 8-10 years of my life. Then Kennedy happened and all hell broke lose.

    Literally. It was my Nixonite father who mended the wound JFK caused, but he was wrong for having mended it.

    The democrat party has proven itself just plain evil.
     
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    if you illegally invade a country, and their ally comes to their aid, you cannot claim "self-defense" against the ally.

    such an idea is absurd
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I get why you see war as glorious. Were you in the Army?
     
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    Hitler attacked our allies, who were innocent victims of Nazi aggression.

    we came to the defense of our allies, who were attacked, unprovoked, by a vicious enemy.

    are you saying we were wrong to defend Western Europe from Nazi aggression????

    wow
     
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    I knew a bunch. My grandmothers entire family with the exception of her brother were nazis. i have distant relatives in both Mexico and Argentina

    My grandmother married a german jewish war hero in Berlin in 1922.

    Nazis were totalitarian, believed in profit and private property. Of course during the national economic emergency from which his government rose like a phoenix, he directly intervened in the economy.
    One of those industry sectors was weapons and war materiel manufacture in contravention of the Versailles treaty.. Even AMERICA dictated what their industries would produce or not in the war. Doing it today in the pandemic, in case you didn't notice.

    He also believed that a healthy german population was mandatory for success, hence public healthcare, mandated work breaks, etc . Give the hoi polloi its "bread and circuses" to foster the ethnic nationalism which was his political raison d'etre.. hail Caesar..
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was a high school kid during the Ike presidency and can report that Ike was hated by my family of Democrats. We liked him as a General but not as the president.

    Looking back on Ike, I see why my family was wrong about Ike but at the time we all loathed him as president.

    I was sent to Germany by the Kennedy clan and was in Germany when the president was killed in TX.
    I also tried to get to know the Germans more to help me understand what they did and why they did it.

    I have today informed the Nazi lovers living in America to knock off that crap that Hitler was a scum bag.
     
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    Do you know of any democrat that espouses central control of the means of production?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look I never mind unloaded questions and non fighting words.

    But you are attacking me. Naturally i shall defend myself from your attacks.

    Is it the nature of America to fight other nations battles for them?

    I suspect you also approve what Truman did and Johnson as well.
     

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