Why Hayek was Right About Nazis Being Socialists

no, but I see how you deflect

Gimme a break, you are a noted trump supporter, firmly in his camp, joining many like minded individuals.

Night of the Long Knives - took out Rohm and all the real Socialists and other "beefsteak" nazis (brown on the outside, red on the inside) - oh thats a reference to brownshirts not skin color, just to be clear).

 

Put yourself out of your capacity to like Socialism far too much and look at this from the people living in Germany side.

Adolf did not Bomb America.
Adolf did not invade America.

We did that to Germany.

 

You know nothing of the Patton invasion of Germany?

 

After they attacked our allies . . . and after their allies attacked us. Did you seriously just fall asleep in history class or something?

 

Germany invaded their neighbors, unprovoked.

we came to their aid. I can understand why the Nazis may have yelled "self defense!!!", but that doesn't make it so.

if someone tries to rape your wife, and you shoot the attacker, the attacker can now kill you?

thats what your logic is arguing.

 

so now murderous aggressors can yell uncle???

LOL!!!!!!

 

My admiring Trump for his job as president is not related to Hitler nor his socialist nazis.

I posted my hate for Hitler earlier in this same topic.

Do you think Stalin did not murder his own people who he wanted to be loyal socialists?

I have seen both a hate for the Nazis of old days and for Trump. And some Democrats think of Trump as a Nazi.

Which he is not.

We lost an uncle to the Truman invasion of Korea. Gene was stationed in Germany after the war ended and married a German woman. Do you think as a kid I should hate his wife?

 

and yet you think Hitler was only "defending Germany" and "acting in self-defense".

 

Overall, yes. Trump was put in the position because America desperately needed to get out of the hell Obama brought. He was new, green, as it were, and brought a fresh new perspective on management that the office badly needs. Okay, maybe not quite Ike, strike that, but best of breed from my generation.

Look, no president has ever been morally **** and span. That's cheap religious bullshit used by truly evil people to run down a candidate. It's the cheapest crap that can be hurled that actually sticks. Trump has been a terrific president unsurpassed in my lifetime. God Bless him. His morals are as stout as yours, and he is obviously far stronger against opposition than you could ever hope to be. He's the man for this country at this time, and he will win this election.

 

In the case of raping an American wife, here in the USA only a man devoted to being silly talks that way.

I do fault Hitler for having his Submarines patrolling our East Coast. But what did FDR do first? FDR sent warships as escorts and was helping both the Soviets and England in their war. FDR was engaged in war prior to the Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor. I believe FDR planned for Japan to attack Pearl Harbor.

 

thats lovely.

an aggressor cannot yell "self defense!!!"

no more than a rapist can do the same.

if you are the aggressor, you cannot claim self defense if someone comes to the aid of the person you are attacking.

I am legally allowed to defend myself and someone being attacked.

 

Ronstar, I served in our Army in Germany after the end of WW2. I do not hate the Germans. Sorry if this offends you. Why do you currently hate the Germans?

We living in America must learn to own our own faults. We love to own the other mans faults but we have them too.

 

1) Nope. Just pointing out the obvious. You aren't interesting enough, at least not yet, to figure out what makes you tick.

2) What, my comments about Southern racism or German racism?

3) I visited Hungary in 73, so I've seen it. I also went to Franco's Spain. What I took away from that is the more that power is concentrated in the hands of a few, the worse off it is for everyone else.

4) Actually, after American intellectuals realised their mistake, most went to great lengths to distance themselves from the Soviet regime. That started in the late 60s. You also said socialism. Which means, in this context, you are prob trying to conflate what is called communism with what is called socialism. Doncha just love undefined terms that can mean anything?

5) Putin is an authoritarian leader. I prefer dictator, but that's the way scholars describe him now. No, he's not as bad as Stalin. But he's bad news, esp. for Russia.

6) No, China was a world leader centuries ago. As I said, many regions have had their era of progress.

7) That needs work, it doesn't make sense as it stands.

It's excellent. One of the things that really helped me in my intellectual development was studying the history of capitalism.
https://www.amazon.com/Wheels-Commerce-Civilization-Capitalism-15th-18th/dp/0060150912

I also loved this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Cities-Wealt...&sprefix=cities+and+the,stripbooks,159&sr=1-2

 

i dont hate the Germans. I have met many nice Germans.

but I do hate the Nazis, they were very evil aggressors and deserved to be destroyed.

 

To compare:

Obama entered the presidency with ideas about how to rip off America for everything he could get.
Trump entered the presidency with ideas about how to make main street well and make America great again.

Obama democrats will remain the villains until they are expunged.

 

You want to make this about Americans wives being raped.

I do not get that at all, but shall we take that path.

Another thing for me vs you.

I served in the Army in Germany. I was almost gone when I was engaged to a lovely German woman. Would I be like you I would have made her life a living hell beating her up over Hitler.

When I was married, suppose you raped my wife. Would I be correct to grab some local punks and beat you to death?

 

if i was raping your wife, you would have the legal right to shoot me.

i cannot yell "self-defense" if i am raping your wife.

 

That is all accurate.

 

No Ron, I would gather some street punks to kill you. And you could not claim self defense per your fashion of thinking.

 

how do you want to "expunge" us?

 

if i was raping your wife, you can get together a gang to help you stop me from raping your wife.

that is legal.

and i cannot then shoot you, and yell "self defense!!"

an aggressor cannot claim self defense.

 

Fascism controlled production indirectly rather than directly you either did what odious leader said or some one else got to run your business who would.

 

Do not rape my wife Ron to keep from being killed.

 

American wives were not raped by the Nazis.

 

its a hypothetical scenario.

if someone was raping your wife, you have the legal right to attack the rapist.

just as the USA had the right to defend France against Nazi aggression.