Extremism in USA : Increasing Problem

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    It is hyperbole. The poster to which I replied wanted to make these things characteristic of the culture when they are fairly rare flaws in the culture. That is the problem. I didn't state any facts that are incorrect. I would appreciate your standing up for your country.
     
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    Why do you want to make people think that rare flaws in the culture are characteristic of the culture. Think it through. You are just being anti-American.
     
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    And I would appreciate conservatives being able to see the US has some major flaws and working toward correcting them instead of constant excuses and “hyperbole”.
    We can both wish
     
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    I see all the flaws. I just don't suggest that they are characteristic of the U.S. like you do. Example. How many unarmed black people are killed by police each year? About a dozen. That campares to approximately 10 million arrests. It is flaw but a rarity.
     
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    We have an incarnation (or crime) issue in this nation competed to other nations. Do you agree?

    You are taking issues with facts, yes — many people beat down the US for items that are unwarranted but when half the population runs around screaming “we’re #1” people like to see those types of individuals fail.
     
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    Why do you wish failure on anybody? Is it jealousy? If your first sentence meant to say that we have an incarceration problem when compared to other nations then I would say that isn't a problem. We should all want the criminals to be incarcerated. The incarceration rate speaks highly of our law enforcement and judicial system. We should be proud of it.
     
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    I don’t know if I would call it jealousy due to wanting to see people fail that are just arrogant, especially when it isn’t true. People just typically don’t like these types of individuals.

    So you believe it is a good thing that the US has the highest incarceration and the highest recidivism rate in the world? Strange thing to be proud of.
     
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    Those who find joy in others difficulty are generally jealous and feel slighted. Not our problem. Our incarceration problems mostly come from our drug laws. We are #1.
     
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    Oh pfff. First you deny the US is like that, and now you're just tossing it on "rare flaws".... in "characteristic of the culture".
    How about this: ISIS has a "rare flaw" to in it's "characteristic of the culture"... don't be anti-ISIS now.

    Think it through.
    lol
     
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    Which part of American society are you saying is equal to ISIS?
     
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    Dude, wake up. With the ISIS part, I am only mocking the flawed reasoning of the poster and it has nothing to do with me allegedly being Anti-American (personal attack) or that the violent ways within the US compared to the EU are not rare flaws and bla bla bla.
     
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    Read what I wrote. I was responding to hyperbole. The poster to which I replied claimed that these "flaws" were characteristic of the U.S. I answered with two words. "Not true." And it isn't true. We tend to read and them interpret what we wish was written.
     
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    The Biden administration.
     
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    Personal attack?
     
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    You've been responding to me for some time now. And there is no hyperbole that people get killed 5 times more often in the US compared to the EU.
    And the US is also 1# of the world with locking up dangerous people.... and as I recall nr2 is far and far away.

    So yeah... the US has an extremism problem. It was already bad. And it's getting worse.
    BLM protests that others use to go loot around on one hand.
    And on the other proteters who are all for armed conflict, specifically... being armed while expressing their opinion.
    They stormed the Capitol in DC and also hit Michigan state capitol as well.

    All that is going on, while racism is all over. The Jews have always complained. Black people became far more vocale the last decade.
    And now the Asians joined in as well. While plenty play bagdad bob and say there is nothing going on. Total joke.
     
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    In 2019 there were 22K violent deaths in Europe and 19141 in the US.
     
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    There are like 750 million people in Europe vs 330 million people in the US.

    If you want to be honest, you need to pick the amount of such deaths per 100,000 people as in:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    And the US is just outshining a heck of a lot of other countries. It's abysmal
     
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    To dislike them is fine. You are free to have your own feelings about people. To wish them ill is another thing altogether.

    Of course I believe that. It means we have an effective law enforcement capability. What is strange about that. Certainly you wouldn't be happy to see more criminals free in society would you?
     
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    Effective policing is one thing, I would just rather have less criminals on par with the rest of the world. I disagree it is a good thing for us to have the highest recidivism rate in the world
     
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    By your article the US is 4.6
     
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    And they should, Normal people in society can do without them.
     
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    History thoroughly teaches us that the tendency is for Liberty to yield to government but eventually, they will cross a line that cannot be crossed with impunity. I fear the Democrats in office right now will be the ones who roll the dice, once too often. I fear for our nation more than I've ever feared in the past. It's like we are being pushed to the brink and no one seems willing to stop.
     
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    Oh, come now... she doesn't get mocked for that nearly as much as being mocked for being a schloot who slept her way up the ladder. She couldn't win a single delegate while running in the primaries. She has done NOTHING worthy of respect and the people know this.
     
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    Goldwater lost on that.

    And then the black rioters adopted the slogan a year later after King was killed.
    Those were REAL riots btw. The cities were actually profoundly changed and not the same for years.
     
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    Look up the Millerites, and then realize that approaching 200 years later they STILL have enough followers that they control a major religion (Seventh Day Adventists) and a feature of their religion that developed later to explain their central problem is sometimes seen as a feature of Christianity in general
     

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