Extremism in USA : Increasing Problem

So, you're all onboard with militarizing our Capitol because those couple of hundred feckless idiots gate crashed the Capitol building? Care to cite how many of those "armed domestic terrorists" were carrying firearms? How many used them to gain entry? Since I'm Conservative, I can't speak disrespectfully to you without being banned. How about you return the favor?

 

FTM, what business is it of YOURS? People who casually tell me which rights I can have are in some form of delusion.

 

No... what you are actually saying is that they aren't YOUR idea of a priority. Are there any other unalienable rights on that little list of 10 that you feel you have the right to summarily remove? FTM, what is it, in your opinion, that makes you qualified to just tell other Americans what they should or should not be able to do? If, as a conservative person, I began issuing edicts saying the country is going to limit abortion severely, increase jail time for drug offenses, put all college professors under surveillance to decide if their dogma is acceptable... you get the idea. I assume you'd have a very real problem with that and you'd make your opinions clearly understood, right? So WHY would you ever expect other American citizens to just shut up, sit down and accept it without protests and lawsuits and any other legal remedy?

 

I agree, it's VERY easy to understand your rhetoric. You speak from a perspective that only YOU get to be the arbiter of what is acceptable. It's a level of arrogance that is pretty typical of many on the Left. I think the arrogance is bolstered by their total control of media, entertainment, educational institutions, etc. The idea being if you can shout people down or have the public propagandized in your favor then you are right and everyone else is wrong. If they demand to be heard, they can be accused of all sorts of evils and they'll either shut up or their lives will be essentially destroyed. Yeah... that's a real utopia you folks are creating.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/10/08/portland-da-declined-to-prosecute-nearly-70-percent-of-protest-cases/
https://en-volve.com/2020/08/12/new...cute-rioters-and-many-other-criminal-charges/
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...ioting-so-state-police-leave-portland-n791846
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/7/portland-drops-charges-for-90-arrested-during-rece/
https://thepostmillennial.com/seattle-will-not-prosecute-protestors-for-criminal-acts
https://nationalpolice.org/anti-pol...-order-they-are-obligated-to-uphold-in-court/

 

That is not only accurate, it is very easy to find corroborative evidence of its accuracy IF a person wants to find the truth rather than just support their biases. We hear a lot about white supremacists, but I don't recall there being violent marches in multiple cities. I must have missed the looting and burning and murders. These kind, patriotic souls who are outraged and paralyzed with fear for the Republic because a couple of hundred idiots forced their way into the Capitol, seem willing to militarize DC indefinitely. Prosecutors in Blue cities refused to even charge thousands that destroyed businesses, injured cops and generally acted like Brown Shirts. Those same folks are happy to use Insurrection charges to imprison people for decades because they were angry about the perception that an election was stolen and NO ONE, not one politician or even SCOTUS were willing to have a transparent investigation to prove everything was fair. They'll have to forgive me but people who refuse to even look into claims aren't people worthy of trust.

 

That doesnt make any sense at all. I want abortion and weed to be precisely as accessible to everyone as guns. How can Trump supporters all be for banning them and yet simultaneously agreeing with anything I say?

Does not compute. Perhaps you misworded that?

 

It is the "religious right" that wish to ban abortion and most likely ban pot.
The "religious right" are a major source of support for anything Trump.
You will hear those religious folks here...agreeing with you on most if not all issues....
like the one who calls himself "Esdraelon" talking about his "God given rights".
They think if they throw the word "God" in there, it makes them even more "right".

 

I didn't question your "right" to anything....
You casually mention God given.....I asked what God has to do with your guns?

 

The same people that are against abortion.....are against government assistance to poor folks.
They could care less about those fetuses....after they are born.
And how many of those unwanted kids end up as drug users and go to prison for that or something worse......
Prisons are already over capacity. I doubt you care one way or the other about abortion or drug users.
Your only interest is your assault rifle hobby.

 

What did I say to you that was disrespectful?
If I had been out of line, it would have been censored....the mods here are fair.

 

I didn't think it was necessary to mention that Democracy is only as good as its last game so when I said the paradox isn't "difficult to understand" I should have added that the ability to "understand" takes for granted that you have some insight into political matters. You obviously do not.

 

Lots of Trumpers want legalized weed, some are even stoners. Fewer want abortion left alone but still many. You yourself are pro-choice and weed-friendly but still like guns. People are rarely monolithic politically

 

Cherry-picked list. Here is something where an opinion piece (from a known and UNBIASED pundit) might carry some weight.

 

Rgr. The 'religious right' has many faults. But 'the religous right' isn't trying to disarm its opponents. So it either isnt looking for a fight, or it is looking for a fair one. The folks that want the govt to have a power monopoly are the biggest problem for me right now. If they would stop that, then they could try to gain me as an ally. But I will forever be the enemy of the proponents of disarmament and power monopoly.

 

Yes, that was partially my point as well.

 

That's my point...they're on your side in that respect....
they are certainly not neutral on assault rifle issues as you are implying.

But the religious right does in effect wish to take away the rights of others.
Abortion is a woman's right to choose....so they are doing the same as you are
accusing the left of doing...but as long as they vote your preference....
you have no problem with what they do.

 

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "power monopoly" unless you're referring to the left
having majority right now.
If that is what you are pointing to...then why wasn't that an issue for you
when the right was holding all the cards.

Personally I like assault rifles...... I would rather own and fire them than anything else.
But I'm not going to support any candidate just because I think he is soft on gun control.
There are too many more important things that need to be addressed.

 

Those who would take combat weapons from the average citizen but not from the agents tasked with governing those citizens are monopolizing power to the government. Thats what I mean by power monopoly.

 

After seeing A10's and Apache's in action...I don't think my assault rifle stands a chance....

 

My idea of a right wing extremist is somebody who wants to ban or censure speech they disagree with and or cancel the person speaking. That is fascism!

There is no indication at all that Trump supporters are going to storm the capital again. There are no demonstrations in other locales. Trump supporters are not rioting and destroying property anywhere.

 

Thats precisely why The Posse Comitatus Act ("PCA") bars members of the U.S. military from enforcing
domestic laws. Ordering an Apache or a Warthog to attack a US citizen on US soil would be an unlawful order.

 

"the Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to National Guard troops during domestic missions while under state control"
"The Act does not prevent the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor."

 

"God given"... There is nothing "god given" about rights or any thing else. We are talking about man given established rights. Religion and guns don't even belong in the same sentence...or paragraph.

 

Great minds....