'Tell Me Again, Why is showing Voter I.D. Considered Voter Suppression'!

So you're unhappy because I didn't get persuaded by your link? I added quotes from your link and made comments about them. Probably more than you would have done.

 

Nope, I’m unhappy cause it’s raining. What you made up means nothing.

 

Noted.

 

Specious dodges note.........but when you can't defend your own position I can understand. And people in line can be given water and have access to the water made available at voting cites, can bring their own water, and even private non-profit non-political groups can set up water stands, they can even order a pizza. Get your facts straight this is about POLITICAL PARTIES and groups handing out ANYTHING to voters in line just as in my state and I bet in yours.

"Let’s take a look at what S.B. 202 actually says:

No person shall solicit votes [or] distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to [a voter] … This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer…from making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to [a voter] waiting in line to vote.

The parts in bold are what S.B. 202 added to the statute. The prohibition applies inside polling places, within 150 feet of a polling place, or “within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.”

Now, first of all, notice what is not prohibited here. Voters can still bring bottled water or other food or beverages with them to stand on line to vote, as people often do when waiting at Disney World or to buy concert tickets or in other public places where people stand on long lines. Voters can still also, if they like, order food; the bill doesn’t stop the Domino’s Pizza man or the local hot dog cart or taco truck from doing business. And if you feel impelled to donate food and drink to voters, you can still do that, too; you just have to give it to the poll workers so they can put it out for general use. The president’s claim that “You can’t provide water for people about to vote” is just false. What you cannot do under the new Georgia law is deploy people in National Rifle Association t-shirts and MAGA hats to hand out free Koch-brothers-financed, Federalist Society–branded pizza to voters."
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021...tent=featured-content-trending&utm_term=first

More Dem/MSM/Leftwing misinformation and distortions. You seem to have fallen for them.

 

It balances representation between the States WHO ELECT THE PRESIDENT. You are not trying to still contend that the President is elected by the People are you?

 

So what's the problem with showing it when you vote and YES the Dems want to get rid of showing it when you register so again if I can vote register without proving who I am, can vote without proving who I am what would prevent me from voting multiple times?

 

Why require it ? Only republicans have engaged in organized fraud.Why punishing democrats ? States are requiring IDs that aren’t normally used even for registration.
Tell me one activity you have to register for that you also have to present the same proof at time of service. Think hard.

 

Noted that you noted.

 

They don't talk about it much, because it is NOT A POSSIBILITY at present.

The Senate would have to do this. And, in our senate we have the filibuster, a Senate rule designed to protect minorities that says that a Senator may demand "cloture" - a requirement that the bill may only pass if it have 60 senators voting in favor out of a total of 100 senators.

Republicans fear that CRAP out of you, because they think you will favor Democratic ideas and because we would gain responsibility in ensuring Puerto Rico gets US levels of support for individuals andd business - and that means tax dollars. We couldn't just abandon you when hurricanes hit, for example.

It's also more than likely that there will be Democratic senators who will not support this move. You can talk about the president lobbying senators, but senators answer to their constituents, NOT to the president. And, we have Democratic senators who come from districts where the population is quite close to being Republican - such that these senators could VERY easily lose their seats over stuff like this.

As pointed out earlier, we can't even achieve representation for those living in Washington DC. And, for the same reasons of partisan politics.

 

The EC only applies to presidential elections.

And, it does not have to do with our system of parties. If we ended the EC, it wouldn't change anything about how parties work.

One thing it WOULD do is that the EC is state by state. So, Repubicans who live in states with a Democratic majority don't get represented. In almost all states, the total number of EC votes allocated to a state ALL go to the one candidate winning in that state.

For example, California hasn't had ANY EC delegates who are Republican for a long time - even though there are a lot of Republicans in California. And the same is true in Texas, where there are a lot of Democrats, but no Democratic EC delegates.

The EC system is ANTI democratic and it has NOT given any benefit benefit to small states that get more than their fair share of EC votes. The legislature isn't affected AT ALL by the EC, and presidents haven't done anything in particular to attempt to warrant the favor of low population states.

 

To identify the person voting DUH. So if you have to show it to register why not when you vote. If it is not suppression and oppression when you register why when you vote?

And stop with your phony claims about only Republicans engage in fraud this protects from fraud on both sides.

 

Why not? The STATES elect the President not the People you don't seem to understand that basic founding premise of our government and country.

 

I don't accept your premise - your claim of what ANYBODY "wants".

ALL states that have same day registration require proof of residency as well as ID.

And, one of the issues in Georgia is that they are invalidating ID that has been perfectly effective in the past. That is an assault on those who find ID harder to get - like those where Republicans have eliminated locations for id, like those who are hourly workers, and thus lose income when they blow time standing in line to get id, like those who find transportation difficult, etc.

The Georgia laws are a direct assault on Democracy - with aboulutes NO legitimate justification.

 

There is no indication that there is fraud to be protected from.

And, you are just plain wrong about your id claims.

 

So what is the problem to show that same ID when you vote? What ID requirement or qualification does this new law change? How does it make them harder to get?

 

So we don't ID when we register and vote or anything we can just vote on the honor system? And are you really going to claim that fraud doesn't happen of will you now more your goal post to not a lot of fraud happens? Stacy Abhrams claims he election was rampant with fraud and why she lost by over 50,000 votes. That's a LOT of fraud.

How am I wrong about ID claims if you are going to claim I am wrong about something then show how.

 

Nope that's a lot of CLAIM, now lets see some PROOF.

 

A lot of fraud she is claiming is she lying? I don't see the left claiming her tweets and speeches and campaigns should be stopped.

 

Republicans have ruled that ID as inadmissable.

The "harder to get" part is the fact that Georgia closed many dozens of sites where ID can be obtained.

And, they did so in specific regions - places where they hat the voters there.

 

Please identify an actual fact that you disagree with.

This crap fest is getting tiring.

 

And in my State, they closed offices in the whitest and richest locations.

Your quasi-religious attitude to this matter is horrible.

 

Why did you bother to post that???

It is PURE "whataboutism".

You don't support your accusation - because you can't.

And, you don't even say the location you are referring to.

You haven't cited anything.

 

Our least devastating and dangerous approach is to have a Convention of States and pass amendments to write real voter qualifications and verification in stone. The easiest ID system in a thumb print reader and an open list of who voted and how they voted that can be accessed online to make sure your vote was correctly counted.

 

The ECONOMICS of these closures makes a mockery of these absurdly emotional claims.

The only driver of closures is money. If a particular office is costing too much to keep open, it's not going to stay open - period. Some will be in rich areas, and some will be in poor areas. It's all about cost.

 

Yes she could be lying, show some proof.