'Tell Me Again, Why is showing Voter I.D. Considered Voter Suppression'!

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    If you cared about money and security, you would promote the move to vote by mail.

    Having polling places allows those in power NUMEROUS ways to tilt elections against those they hate.

    And, it costs more.

    Are you interested in making elections MORE secure, MORE equally accessible, AND in saving MONEY?
     
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    A thumb print reader only connects a user to some record previously made.

    My signature already does that.

    There is no fraud in OR, WA and other states that depend ENTIRELY on vote by mail, and have done so for years.

    ALL this assault on voting is doing is adding hoops for people to try to jump through. And, these hoops are very well known to be more difficult for specific population segments.

    At every election, we see those who hate democracy add requirements designed to limit access to the polls. At EVERY election!! This is NOT a search for some end to fraud - it's been determined that there IS NO FRAUD. What it IS is a straight up assault on democracy.



    I'd also point out that finger prints are used for criminal investigation.

    Suggesting I would need to submit fingerprints to law enforcement databases in order to be allowed to vote is just plain NOT acceptable.
     
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    1) It's tax payers' money, funding these offices. Do you want it wasted on retaining no longer profitable premises? Justification has to happen. Govt is accountable to the public. We might not like local branches of various organs (and banks, etc) closing, but it's the way of the world these days. Adjust.

    2) "Hate"? Could you use a more emotional word?

    3) Elections are already equally accessible (because the same rules apply equally to all), and the security of the process is stupidly important.
     
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    Have you ever voted ? You sound like you’ve never voted before. When was the last time you ever heard of someone voting for someone else and committing a federal offense.
    They check your address and name agreeing the registration info at the intake desk before you’re given a ballot.
     
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    Come on now. Tell us how you’d vote for someone else. I’m waiting. None of you can tell us how you’d vote using someone else’s name. How does that work. How would you even know what name to use ? If that person had already voted and they’re name was checked off, you just committed a federal offense. You could not pass a federal background check for the rest of your like.

    You guys are absolutely delusional..
     
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    Don’t the states each have their own rules about voting?
     
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    After implying I am a "white supremacist" (a personal attack) You completely fail to answer my question, if we are a racist nation, why are minorities coming to the United states in droves. It's because you can't.
     
  8. dagosa

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    Even that is absolutely wrong.. The state governments are not authorized to chose the president. The state electors do not have to vote for what the state wants. They are individuals who are free to vote in the electoral college for whom ever the want. So it’s STILL a people’s election of a majority. Eliminating the middle election of so called more informed people’s because there is no longer a problem with candidates being able to reach everyone, eliminates the need for an intermediate election. Except, the GOP prefers apartheid minority rule governments like South Africa. We have Phones , television and computers which eliminate the need for the electoral college.
     
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    Because they’re coming here to avoid being killed by drug lords and dying of climate change related drought conditions that the developed nations share a responsibility for. These nations have been fked over for decades by developed countries who use their slave labor, buy illegal drugs from their criminals and sell and trade them tons of weapons to shoot their citizenry. .
     
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    You can’t have it both ways. The only organized prosecuted fraud has been by republicans. If you’re claiming that democrats are too smart to get caught, well, that’s another issue.
     
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  11. Bluesguy

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    So either Republicans engage in voter fraud or Democrats engage in voter fraud it cannot be both.......................your post grow more specious and filled with more nonsense as you dodge the issue and fail to respond to them.
     
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    ROFL you don't even know the Constitution which EXPLICTEDLY gives the manner of the selection of the STATE's electors to the state legislature. You, the People, only get to vote on them by the graces of that state legislature it alone could choose them and you, the People, would have no constitutional grievance.

    The STATE's elect the President not the People.
     
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    It has been repeatedly stated, try to respond to it. And yes it would be a crime but then when have laws against robbery and rape and murder and fraud stopped all robbery and rape and murder and fraud.
     
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    Yes now answer my question

    So if you have to show it to register why not when you vote. If it is not suppression and oppression when you register why when you vote?
     
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    Not according to the left and the MSM her claims alone have led to a leftist outrage and her being given national attention. If she can claim that there was voter fraud of over 50,000 votes and that is accepted by the MSM and Dems and Left then why is all other fraud non-existent?
     
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    What are you disagreeing with?
     
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    I voted for a city council member. He lost. Did I not get represented because the other side won? You ONLY vote for whom your STATE will choose for President. You do that in a state election not a national election. If you lose and your state decides to choose another candidate, oh well that's how it goes in elections. The STATES elect the President not the People.
     
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    Republicans don't rule and a variety of ID's are available and what sites were closed and be specific? And again if you have to show one to register what is the problem with showing it when you vote. I just search and could find no reports of people in GA not being able to obtain ID's.
     
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    You never answered my question. How does one vote for another person ?

    Why should you have to ? You’ve already shown your ID when you do your registration. When you Pre register for healthcare appointments, you no longer have to show any ID when you get the healthcare . Registering to vote before you vote, is preregistration. I know of no other situation where you have to pre register, where you then have to show ID as you did to register when you go in to receive the service....NONE.

    ITS Out convenience or everyone . . It would be a zoo at poling places if everyone had to repeat their registration procedure.

    of course, the gop wants to slow the process down.
     
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    Yes I did IF we have same day registration, no longer have ID requirements to register and to vote. I could simply go to a polling place write down a name on a registration form and get a ballot and cast it. I asked you repeatedly what would stop someone from being able to cast fraudulent votes and you refuse to answer.

    Stop dodging why is it not suppression to show an ID to register but is suppression to have to show it when you vote?
     
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    That’s a bold face crappolla. There are no states in the Union, that require less ID during same day as they do for pre..registration. If I don’t Pre register for healthcare, I have to show both my insurance card and license. They always get pissed while slowing the line down to do this sht...you know it and you’re making up sht. .
     
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    Voter and election fraud can earsily be felonies. That means you can no longer pass a background check when convicted . It doesn’t even make sense you would do what you’re claiming.
    That people routinely commit voter fraud is ridiculous. Your gop side has found NOTHING. No. Carolina has had election fraud been prosecuted and that was the gop.
    https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/what-is-voter-fraud-and-election-fraud.html
     
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    You still have t shown us how you can vote for someone else...no you can’t register at anytime without some ID as determined by the state. It’s not different for same day registration.
     
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    Read it ....
    https://usconstitution.net/consttop_elec.html

    You’re still wrong. The electors VOTE, NOT THE STATE.the electoral college is made up of people.
     
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    Because it is.
     

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