Police chief says cop who fatally shot Daunte Wright accidentally fired gun instead of Taser

IMO, we need at least 10 No Bullet Barneys for every Barney with a gun, and we need constitutional carry.
Tennessee should be the model for the future with respect to arming the people.

 

Assuming no priors, I doubt if a conviction would garner the Max of 10 years.

The sentence for second-degree manslaughter could net a defendant up to 10 years in prison. However, in many cases, they will likely serve less than 5 years.

I think a 5-Year Sentence (eligible for parole after 40 months) would seem fair.

 

How so?

 

What law?

 

The destruction of minority families and culture is largely a result of poor decision-making on the part of many individuals within those families and that culture. That's what I mean by "largely self-inflicted"

 

My biggest 'take-away' from this whole thing is that it might be a much better idea if police officers didn't carry 'tasers' at all! These silly, modified toys are just in the damn way and cause problems precisely because they can so easily be confused with real firearms.

If 'perps' and criminals know that the police carry only firearms -- I mean real firearms -- and that they will use those firearms if they don't OBEY LAWFUL POLICE COMMANDS, they'll probably be a lot less likely to try to fight the police, evade arrest, etc.

Suggestion: use electrical 'goads' to move livestock, like 'cattle-prods'. Keep them out of law enforcement venues!

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The problem existed before cops carried taser guns. The whole point of the taser was to stop a disorderly person without having to shoot them.

I honestly don't know how it's possible to mistake a taser gun from a real gun as the don't feel the same way. Add in the fact they are on opposite sides of the body makes it even harder to conceptualize.

 

During the 'frenzy of the moment', nearly anything is possible when a perp is violently resisting arrest.

I'm not necessarily defending this particular cop's actions on a 'point-blank' basis, but it is true that if police officers weren't encumbered with toting these taser-toys around in the first place, there would be NO DOUBT in their minds at all (or the minds of criminals and perps) about what the police have in their hands, no matter how much confusion, disruption, and chaos is going on at that moment.

 

Yes. That's a very valid point. I have PTSD (abusive childhood and former cop) and it is very easy to go on auto-pilot when one is in a heightened state. Mistakes are bound to happen.

I think LEOs should go through continuing education the way doctors and nurses have to to keep their licenses. I have thought about this incident many times and there is just a huge plot hole on how this officer was put on the streets.

 

When the powerful corrupt institutions of Big Government are directed toward the destruction of families, communities and cultures they usually succeed. Our urban hell holes are now destroying all of the ordinary Americans trapped in them, and when they flee they bear the damage with them.

"But one of Arendt’s most prescient points has to do with the burden of bureaucracy as a trigger for social unrest:

The greater the bureaucratization of public life, the greater will be the attraction of violence. In a fully developed bureaucracy there is nobody left with whom one could argue, to whom one could present grievances, on whom the pressures of power could be exerted. Bureaucracy is the form of government in which everybody is deprived of political freedom, of the power to act; for the rule by Nobody is not no-rule, and where all are equally powerless we have a tyranny without a tyrant."
BRAIN PICKINGS, Hannah Arendt on How Bureaucracy Fuels Violence, “The rule by Nobody is not no-rule, and where all are equally powerless we have a tyranny without a tyrant.”
https://www.brainpickings.org/2013/10/14/hannah-arendt-on-bureaucracy-and-violence/

 

It may look that way on the surface.

 

deportation

 

they ought to bring back billy clubs

thump them on the skulls

 

@Seth Bullock - thoughts on this? I'm guessing that you started your career without tasers and then possibly they were introduced during your time. Seems to me like LOTS of simulation would need to be done so that officers would instinctively know where their gun is and where their taser is, and make sure they draw the right one for the situation, especially for those who had spent YEARS with only a gun.

 

The problem is muscle memory under stress.

Typical Taser training is a 4-hour class where the officer learns how and why it works, when they may use it, and then they shoot it a couple of times. After that, they are "trained" on the Taser, technically. Retraining with the Taser is not required generally. I put "trained" in quotes because the truth is that there is an important difference between being technically trained and being trained to a point of reacting with muscle memory under stress.

Firearms training begins in the basic academy, and it is ongoing throughout an officer's career. Depending on the practice of the police agency, the officer may be required to take firearms training anywhere from 1-4 times a year. By the time an officer has 26 years of experience, they have probably drawn that pistol in training 1000 times, maybe a lot more.

Stress never helps us think better. Stress and the concurrent adrenaline can make us stronger and faster, but it never helps us think better. Under stress, an officer generally rises to the level of their training and preparation. I noticed this fact in my own career with myself. Things I had trained for repeatedly, I did well. Things I hadn't trained for, not so much.

Police officers are not super-human, they are just human. Kim Potter is a 48 year old woman who found herself in a physical struggle with a young male criminal. This is stressful and dangerous. This causes an adrenaline dump into the system, and when that happens, calm, logical thinking goes out the window, and we react. In those moments, all people are going to perform to the level of their prior preparation, training, and muscle memory.

We hear a lot about science these days, don't we? Well, this is the science of the toxic environment of physical conflict and awareness of danger. It's been tested extensively by people with expert qualifications, people with Phd's and such.

Unfortunately, it appears as though that stress resulted in thinking it was time to use a Taser, but her muscle memory resulted in her drawing her pistol. I have no reason to believe that she consciously knew she was holding her pistol in her hand, not the Taser. I feel very sorry for her.

 

You think Mexicans should all be deported?

 

All my long life I've heard it said that using clubs to strike Blacks on the head is not a particularly effective method for subduing them.

Every police officer that I know of always carries a cannister of industrial-strength 'pepper-spray' of one composition or another... so, if I needed to subdue any perp, including Black ones, I'd hose him in the face with a big dose of spray. But "Billy" clubs...? Naw... besides using a club on Blacks would just give the hyperliberal "news" media, BLM, and ANTIFA something else to bitch about.

There's risk, though, that using pepper-spray could back-fire on a policeman. What if he drenches some drug-crazed Black perp's face with the spray, and then the perp starts yelling, "I can't breathe!" Ooh... then if the perp dies, the police officer gets his life destroyed and has to stand trial for murder. Sound vaguely familiar...?

 

Americans are keen on carrying guns and using them.
Maybe the police officer thought the person she shot would come back from the dead after she pressed the reset button (if she could find it).

 

It is probable that more of us Americans are "keen" on SELF-DEFENCE than in indulging a belief that one may "come back from the dead" after some magical pressing of a "reset button".

While compelling reasons do exist which suggest the possible validity of "reincarnation", in the here-and-now, more Americans are probably content to protect the lives we currently have instead of surrendering ourselves to every kind of dangerous, malignant criminal, humanoid monster that currently infests the world.

Afterthought: if you're a citizen of Great Britain, you may want to reflect on the tragedy of poor Lee Rigby, late of Her Majesty's Royal Regiment of Fusiliers : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lee_Rigby . He might very well be alive today if he'd been carrying a good, old Webley revolver at this side when those two Islamo-Nazi pieces of sh!t came at him on the streets of London to behead him....

Rule, Britannia!

 

I am a citizen of a republic who lives in London. The dreadful murder of Lee Rigby took place about five minutes (by car) from my home.
I am well aware of what happened, but strangely enough to Americans the murder has not led to local people wanting to carry either Webley pistols, or the automatic assault rifles which seem to be the weapon of choice for the dozens of non Islamo-Nazi spree killers and school shooters everywhere in the United States.
Maybe Londoners are less paranoid and fearful than Americans.

 

So did you start out with no taser?

 

Yes, my career started long before Tasers.

 

Did you get them later in your career?

 

That’s not racism lol you can’t blame white people for the fact they don’t want to live around black communities when those black communities have GROSSLY disproportionate and absurdly high levels of drugs and violent crime. Would you want to live there? Or would you prefer to live in a neighborhood without that? They’re not racist, they’re acting in self-preservation.

And when those white people leave and they take their money with them and more black people move in and the rates of violent and drug crime increase and the average income level decreases can you blame businesses for not wanting to invest in that community? Is it because they’re racist? Of course not. They simply aren’t going take the risk of having their business, their employees, their families or themselves becoming the victim of a violent crime to make a profit that is FAR less than they could make elsewhere.

It’s not racism. It’s common sense.

Furthermore the problem will NEVER be solved because instead of addressing the issue of black people engaging in these disproportionate levels of socially and culturally destructive behaviors, the left simply wants to steal money from the majority (white people) and give it to the minority groups while convincing them everything is the fault of the evil racist whitey. Literally EVERYTHING in the minorities lives... from the cereal they eat to the justice system they interact with to the roads they drive on to the schools they send their children to are designed to undermine their ability to succeed because it’s manufactured and sustained by evil racist white people according to the left.

And anyone who believes that **** or anything like it is the real racist and the real problem.

 

Really? Why don’t you go to Rochdale and stand around with a picture of Mohammad on your chest and I bet you’ll wish you had a gun then. Or maybe you’d let your daughter walk around Rotherham alone with no gun to defend herself? No? Why not?