Russia Warns Britain: "Do Not Tempt Fate"

The Russians suffered a lot under Washington's man Yeltsin and they blame Gorbachev for the break up of the Soviet Union. Maybe he shouldn't have trusted Washington - but he did.

Putin considers the break up of the Soviet Union the greatest catastrophe of the last century, since 20 million Russians found themselves living outside of Russia. He said that anyone that doesn't reminisce about it doesn't have a heart, and anyone that wants it back doesn't have a brain.

When asked about Lenin recently, it was the first time I saw him angry. He usually hides his emotions well. Putin said Lenin was a revolutionist and not a statesmen, probably in reference to the way he split up nations. I assume he was thinking of the Russians of Ukraine and the Baltic countries and how they're being forced to give up their language and heritage.

 

My problem with Putin is his constant glorification of evil antichrist church-destroying mass-murdering marxist Stalin !!

Also cultural marxist abominations like abortion and sodomites are still legal in Putin's Russia.

What's even worse than Putin embracing all these evils... the Russian people do also... which cancels out Russia's previous repentance of evil antichrist marxism.

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Why should Russia or anyone bow to Western standards? The arrogance is appalling. Besides we're not a democracy. Those days are gone forever. We're now a liberal totalitarianism, similar to the Soviet Union.

 

Link to what ??

Pravda pulled the plug on its forum back in January.

Here is a link to my post quoted and responded to by Durandal a former Pravda poster who recognized me when I signed up here.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...to-avoid-crimea.586968/page-3#post-1072571583

Here is a link to my post in a ongoing discussion about Pravda forum being taken down.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-forum-is-down.245579/page-4#post-1072578852

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How do you know his "humility" is "sincere"? Given his publicity seeking stunts I'm not sure where you see any "humility"

 

As usual you deflect ... fact is, Putin and Russia aren't popular.

 

Brookings = Hitler? Hohhhh-Kayyyyy...

The point is that Gorbachev said there was no promise not to expand NATO on Russia's borders.

 

Not stealing investments made in your country is bowing to "Western standards?"

How dare investors not bring money to Russia for Putin and Friends to steal!

Changing the subject?

 

As to the 20 million, yes that was a reference to the 'great catastrophe'. Putin said that the catastrophe was effectively the open border that the USSR had for some many years, thus there was mass migration...and so-called 'diversity'. This 'diversity'....as Putin rightly recognizes....is not a strength, it is a weakness. Russians that migrated to other parts of the USSR that are now independent countries were/are discriminated against....thus the 'great catastrophe'.

His Lenin reference has to do with the Russian Empire and Capitalism. Putin has repeatedly said that if left alone, Russia was on it's way to a system of government much like that of the U.K. and the U.S.. In other words, the Tsars in Russia would be like the Queen. A nice figure head but power was to be dispersed among the people through a representative government, like ours. Putin went on to reference the willy-nilly way Lenin drew the various Soviet Republic boundary lines as another major screwup of Lenin. This is where the mixing of cultures wasn't taken into consideration while effectively making state lines. As you know, Lenin created carved 'Ukraine' primarily out of historical Russian Empire lands. As to capitalism and the industrial revolution, all one has to do is visit Moscow or Saint Petersburg and compare the buildings pre-1917 to those post-1917. Saint Petersburg was a modern, first class city in 1917.....yet our liberal propagandists here in the West make out like Russia was all bears and primitive huts. Russia was a capitalistic world leader until Lenin got the socialist workers to revolt, and the rest is history. The same thing is happening here but people are too naive to see it for what it is.

As for these other posters that have repeatedly said Russia has invaded and taken all these countries and land since 1991....NAME THEM. Once you're done, we'll compare to what NATO has done since 1991.

 

Well youtube is full of Putin material so surely you could post just ONE video whereby he actually glorifies Stalin like you say. Just ONE.

I'm not holding my breathe.

 

Not a "minor Austrian nobleman" by any means. Archduke Franz Ferdinand was the Crown Prince and in line to be the next Emperor.

 

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Putin glorifies both Lenin and Stalin during his annual May 9th Stalinist red army parade in Red Square every year. Btw... Lenin's corpse is still entombed in a place of honor near the Kremlin.

Putin recently built a huge military church near Moscow that glorifies Stalin.

Putin repeatedly praises Stalin's victories in his speeches.

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It says volumes that you state that a BBC reporter was on board, but do not cite his BBC report; opting, instead for-- no surprise-- SputnikNews. I will point out to others, since I can only imagine that this was your intention, that the OP's piecemeal description, initially seems to imply that none of Britain's story had any truth to it, which is not the case. Here is the short, but comprehensive, BBC News video.



What Great Britian was doing, according to all in the report, was sailing along a long-recognized, international shipping lane. The problem arose because of Russia's annexation of Crimea, from Ukraine, and so current claim that those waters are now Russian territory. The annexation, however, has not been internationally recognized, as lawful. Therefore, from the Brit perspective, they were, indeed, travelling along an international lane, in Ukrainian waters. It is only from Russia's perspective, that the British ship was trespassing.

As one of the sailors onboard stated, Great Britian would always stand up against those who would not adhere to international law.

I can only say that this was a very bold move of the Brits, knowing that there was the potential for an unfriendly encounter. Apparently, Boris Johnson is not intimidated by Putin, & Russia's military.

 

One can only hope that is the kind of psyop Putin is engaging in when he glorifies antichrist marxist Stalin.

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So... it's a 'medium of US propaganda'
There's one instance where that might be true. A whistle blower from the CNN
showed how the organization set out to besmirch Trump as much as it could,
to the point of being policy.

The issue with 'propaganda' is

1 - propaganda of the left, or propaganda of the right?
2 - propaganda compared to what country? Hong Kong, Russia, Iran?
3 - if there's political murder in America, shouldn't it relate to sitting members, like Pelosi or McConnel?

There's certainly a liberal bias in Western media, and that's documented. But I am not sure that's
genuine 'propaganda'

 

Give me a break.


I concur!

 

Evil antichrist globalist cultural marxists have destroyed Britain... now its military serves the "internationalists."

Same with all other [former] White Christian nations... evil antichrist cultual marixists have systematically destroyed their racial, cultural, religious, moral foundations and not one of their chicken-hearted so-called "leaders" even flapped a wing or peeped in protest.

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So Russia, who shouldn't be in the Crimea, hence the sanctions, openly fired on a British Navy ship, and this hasn't been seen as a declaration of war?
We should remind Moscow that they shouldn't be there.
It's like Israel telling someone to f' off from Jerusalem, what authority do they have? None.

 

Bullshit. Putin has a disdain for Lenin. If you knew anything about Putin, you would know this since it's widely known. Furthermore, the fact that Putin celebrates Victory Day...as does the whole country since it's a major holiday...is not an endorsement of Stalin per se. I have yet to hear him say anything that praises Stalin other than the war effort and the related industrialization because of it. Yeah, I know Lenin's corpse is sitting in Red Square, hell I've walked by it enough to know what the hell it is. Putin has been neutral on moving Lenin's tomb, as he has said, more or less, it's not that important an issue to deal with right now but in the future it's on the table.

And how in the hell can Putin build a CHURCH that glorifies Stalin when you keep referring to Stalin as the anti-christ???
Do you even know what the hell you're saying? That's a SLIGHT contradiction.

25 million Russians died in WW2. Do you honestly think Putin is going to talk **** about Victory Day??????

 

Should NATO have bombed and destroyed Yugoslavia in 1999?

Boris Johnson is an idiot and if that ship tries that stunt again, I fully expect it to be sank.

 

Most modern so-called "churches" today are really antichrist baal temples.

Putin's new military "church" glorifies Stalin's victory over Hitler.

The irony is... metal from Hitler's military hardware [not Stalin's] was melted down and integrated into the bones of the "church" itself. That's the only reason the church has a certain appeal to me. I also admired a special double door in the church... until I discovered the swastika on the dragon [that makes antichrist Stalin Putin's Michael !!]

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Poohbear - When the plane was shot down in Ukraine, Obama and Kerry immediately threw the blame on Vladimir Putin. The satellite pictures were never shown and all we got from Obama and Kerry was: Trust us.

They said a BUK was brought in from Russia, yet a week before the shoot down I read on the Vineyard of the Saker that Kiev had sent 4 Buks to the area and the Saker couldn't understand why.

The investigative reporter Robert Parry of Consortiumnews asked a Washington Intelligence agent what they knew about the shoot down of the airliner, and the agent said he couldn't understand why the president was blaming the Russians. The only photo they have of a BUK in the area, is one being manned by men in Ukrainian uniforms.

In the meantime he found out that the company that was passing around big bucks in Washington to keep the blame for the airliner on Vladimir Putin was Burisma Holdings, the company that Biden's son worked for.

Three months later Parry asked the Intelligence agent again if they found out anything more about the airliner. He said no, that everything still points to Ukraine. Parry then asked him why they're not disclosing it to the American people, and he was told that Russia has everything going for it in Ukraine, but all the US has it's propaganda. In other words lies.

Here's a video of the American State Department spokeswoman trying to answer the Russia reporter. This was right after the newspapers blasted stories of Russia bombing 6 hospitals, 5 of which were none existent and the other one was perfectly intact.

 

So Britain is going to tell Russia that the Crimean waters are not Russian waters? WOW! I guess they feel they still own the seas and are ready to refight the Crimean war.

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What an idiot Johnson is, ready to start a world war to please Zalensky.