Texas 6-week abortion ban takes effect after Supreme Court inaction

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I just tried to submit an anonymous tip, but was blocked by the good folks at GoDaddy.com, the site administrators (LMAO)

    I assume it's because of my IP Address.... anybody know a way around that?

    I recommend everybody give it a try and let us know your location and results.... Texas residents preferred of course...

    https://prolifewhistleblower.com/anonymous-form/
     
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    I'm not the one saying it isn't what it is. So what do you think it is a giraffe?
    Well fetus means unborn offspring. Human offspring are called babies.

    If you think it magically goes from something that's not a human into something that is a human at some stage after conception you're denying science.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    No it isn't.
     
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    Athelite Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not false.
    Not sure if you are a woman, but many pregnant Texas women appears to be going out of states to get abortions.
     
  5. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    They always have, because even before this crap, Texastan was one of the hardest places to get an abortion... Now, that service it's going to explode...
     
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    You are talking gestational viability. The stage of development that the fetus can exist independently outside the womb. And it is certainly NOT viable at six weeks.
     
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    lol, I thought about it, but it would probably be better to donate to a group that helps Texan abortion refugees... though maybe Dog the abortion bounty hunter would then drag me to a Texas court for 10 grand, hahaha.
     
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    no it isn't.
    do you know that women do actions that they choose to do that causes them to get pregnant and that isn't the state forcing them to be.
    women's right to choose took away the male role. Seems all the role is now is a sperm donor and a piggy bank.

    This is the reality your viewpoints created I don't like it that's why I'm arguing against it.
    Killing people is wrong
    No there not. User gaslighting misrepresenting or you are confused.
     
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    Yes false what I am doesn't have anything to do with veracity of statements.
     
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    She makes some great points...
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  11. Polydectes

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    Delete
     
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  12. Egoboy

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    I have a few refugee sites on my list... trying to make sure they're valid and doing the work I want to support.....

    Yeah, I'd love to see them come after somebody not living in Texastan for violating their shitty unconstitutional law...

    That's sarcasm, but somebody should probably test both permutations ASAP....

    But I'm still going to keep reading how the professional spammers are beating GoDaddy.com.... I'm reading people have been doing that for 2 weeks now... Good to be ahead of the trend....
     
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    I wouldn't use viability as a bench mark it's way too subjective. If you have access to premium medicine or nutrition the viability is different than if you don't and that gets into some ugly eugenics pretty quickly.
     
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    It seems people are checking the balance. This should happen and did happen when the right was going to far.

    It's more like a pendulum that's being pushed left and right. Seems it's reaching it's left zenith.

    I fear the hard swing right just as much as the hard swing left.
     
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    Good point but when it comes to.children from the womb until adulthood being conservative is entirely appropriate.
     
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    It's not really that variable at that point. Our system sucks at preventive care for the poor, but not critical care (other than the bankruptcy). EMTALA means that even if you're poor, doctors must provide stabilizing care even if you can't pay. EMTALA is directly applicable to a patient that can't breathe yet. Viability has been pretty stable around 23-24 weeks for a long while now because science hasn't figured out how to get around the issue of immature lungs and living outside of the womb. The lungs just aren't ready to take over before that even with help, they need the womb environment to get to the next stage of development, and the fetus is really dependent upon getting oxygenated blood through the umbilical cord.

    All of that said, viability isn't a logical standard at all. Someday we'll have artificial wombs that could keep the fetus alive the whole time. Won't change the morals of it. And again, it comes down to the development of the brain structures to support the earliest forms of the human mind, which right now happens to approximately coincide with viability. Before there's a mind, there's no person.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    :) And won't that tie up Texas courts and cost Texans lots in taxes....:) :)

    Oh? Why not?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    :) And won't that tie up Texas courts and cost Texans lots in taxes....:) :) :)


    LOL, as usual you have no idea what I was referring to but commented anyway.

    IF people can sue abortion providers and anyone who helped the woman get an abortion it WILL tie up Texas courts and cost Texans lots in taxes. :) :)
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    No , a human ZEF is human but it NOT A Human as in born legal person.


    So you don't follow science and can't call a ZEF a ZEF but make up a name......how convenient for you...
     
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    Sure it does. If you are a man you would never know what it's like to be forced to give birth, and it's very easy for you to simply claim they are not forced to, when it's a problem you will never have to face.

    That Texas women going out of states to get abortion is telling that if they stay in Texas, they would be forced to give birth.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    ... NO one is allowed to use another's body to sustain their life....

    That has nothing to do with the post of mine you quoted.

    NO one can force you to give them a body part (heart, lung, eye) not even a blood transfusion to sustain their life....

    Anti-Choicers want ZEFs to have more rights than anyone else.

    It has nothing to do with alimony or child support...or whether they are "moral" or not..
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    WHY an exception for rape ?????

    GoodGAWD...it's a simple question....why are you at a loss for words now ? ;) ;)


    So you do not believe in making an exception for a rape victim but want her PUNISHED for being raped...OK, I got it...



    No, I am not OK with destroying women's right to bodily autonomy.

    NOW I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION WHY CAN'T YOU ANSWER MINE?????????????




    That is what we were discussing....if you can't answer those inconvenient questions then just say so :)


    So you do not believe in making an exception for a rape victim but want her PUNISHED for being raped...????


    So you do NOT want an exception for rape?

    Then you want a raped woman to be punished more than the rapist.....pathetic...
     
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    1) Yes, I do know what it means. It means that you enjoy the full consequences of your choices, without interference.

    2) Exactly. He made a bad choice (in choosing a risky investment without reserves in case of failure - not in having declined to lend money), and is now enjoying the consequences of that.
     
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    It's pretty clear they think men need to take control of the situation - so evidently they think men are more capable of doing so.
     
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    Could you explain a birth that doesn't begin with a pregnancy, please? Is it a religious event, or something to do with test tubes?
     

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