Sandy Hook families settle for $73M with gun maker Remington

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  1. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    Some times things like cereals advertise they are healthy when they aren't. Some times the serving size is based on calories, those calories come from sugars and then no one eats just "one serving size". Cereal advertising is targeted at kids. Product manufacturers push grocery store chains to give them the ideal placement on the shelves. Everybody is playing the system. I remember years ago when big tobacco executives got called before a Congressional hearing. Those guys each in turn stated "I do not believe cigarette smoking is hazardous to your health". LOL. Companies don't lie, they just stretch the truth.
     
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    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    There are so many different parts of the NRA. Things with the organization really changed in the 1970's. Might be nice to split the legislative/lobbing from the NRA of the first 100 years.
     
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    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    Well if you ever get Stateside look me up. You can come by and target practice with me and my wife. We have a 100 yard range in the back yard. Coffee is always on.
    Of course you will only be able to shoot my single shot rifles because you are Australian!
    Wouldn't want you getting any ideas or bad habits.:p

    Have a good evening/afternoon?

    Rich
     
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  4. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed you have the freedom to “tell” me that but you’re having difficulties convincing even yourself that you have succeeded. People who really don’t care don’t spin round themselves thinking about nothing else.

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  5. Bowerbird

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    And the scandal of “Big Tobacco” echoes to this day.

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-aug-18-na-smoke18-story.html

    Look at what happened to big Tobacco - they had to place ads stating cigarettes kill

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...tells-truth-court-ordered-ad-campaign-n823136

    No real news since we have accepted this for decades but this ruling would have factored into the decision to payout the Newtown parents
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And should we allow "problem people" access to matches? What about guns? Until you've begun to cure the socially inherent, psychological ailment of the American population then maybe keeping them away from firearms is a good idea.

    * "Christ, your floors are always wet and it gets worse by the day! Don't you ever mop the place?"
    - "Naw, it wouldn't do any good. There's a hole in the roof".
     
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    I just find it entertaining that you think we're supposed to care.

    What arrogance and ego it would take for me to comment on the rights of swedish citizens and think that my opinion mattered...
     
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    Lots of people here commenting on what they think is happening in Australia
     
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    One is only 'safer' if they know how and when to use a gun. I have not encountered any such stories of people being 'saved' by waving a gun around, perhaps you would like to provide links to those?

    So, advertising a product as making one 'safer' could be applied to all those home security systems currently being touted? Are they playing on 'fear' also? All those commercials for workout equipment are not promoting a 'sleek and sexy' body? Workout clothes that show off one's toned body aren't promoting anything?

    It's called advertising for a reason. Guns are no different, they serve a purpose for hunting and competition.

    So statistically speaking, what would you recommend for a 125 pound female? A hand gun for which they have received training, or a loud voice to call for help? Which has better odds of being effective?
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From what part of your fantasy do you imagine that I think “you’re supposed to care”? It is a fact that you do care, there is no obligation to it, it's just a fact. I'm not the one with his knickers twisted. That'd be you.
    Show me any thread about Sweden in this discussion forum where non-Swedes have not (do not) put in their two-cents. Do you have any idea what a DISCUSSION FORUM is all about?

    “Arrogance” and “ego” are the manners in which someone expresses his/her opinion but it doesn’t negate the wisdom or ignorance of the comment itself.
    Cripes. I see that it really is necessary for you to point that out for him.
     
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    Sure they have, SURE THEY DO..

    And therein lays the hypocrisy! They gladly provide the very means for the potential of mass murder :)

    Well with your help making the point, we are :)

    Thank you very much..
     
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    I have a few on ignore because they would not stop trying to bait me by insulting my country. I am used to it. It became a fascination trying to work out WHY Americans not only had the highest gun death rate among the industrialised nations but also did not seem to be concerned about it
     
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    NONESENSE!
    So you think a firearm comes without a warning! We have national AD's addressing gun safety, some quite graphic..

    You don't know because bias and distain for the American gun owners blurs your views. You clearly know very little about America's ad's and have it completely backwards as to what IS advertised and what is not nationally advertised in this country...

    Nationa Gun safety ad's - Search (bing.com)

    You let me know how many more gun safety ad's you'd like to see!



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    Irony!
     
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    Rape whistles seem to be the defense liberals recommend for women.
     
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    Maybe you can help me out here. I don't mind if people criticize Sweden and if their criticism rings true (or at least contains some logic) I'll agree with them. If what they say is rubbish I'll tell them so. But those (as you say) who think they can "bait me" into anger aren't worth the oxygen they consume, if "consume" is the right word for it. What they do achieve is opening a window into their own lack of understanding, personal character, and ability to discuss the subject in the first place. They are the sort of people who get to the YouTube video before anyone else and their only comment below states, "First!"
    Are you satisfied with the results so far?
     
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    They can look me up. I will be happy to pick them up at the Reagan Airport after dark and drop them off in nearby Anacostia for a nice walk in a historic neighborhood.
     
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    More hypocrisy :(

    List of 25 Swedish gun makers, Sweden suppliers and distributors and sellers (ammoterra.com)

    BTW I think the [​IMG]Swedish bullets are without a doubt the best factory performance rounds on the market. The brass provides excellent reloadability with minimal stretch and trimming!!

    Thanks Sweden for your sales to Dunham's Sports outlets U.S!
     
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    Maybe it's because the answer you seek will take you down a familiar road ;) Once one has taken honest data in to account they soon find it's a very touchy subject and very much to do with Democrat lack of attention and policies associated with minorities :)

    BTW, I don't recall many demographic pictures pertaining to who in this country commits the most gun crimes and deaths by firearms?

    Odd indeed ;)
     
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    Why do you think this is important? We're not blasting guns through the shopping mall, post offices, primary schools, high schools, colleges, universities, churches, and road rages. That's your game, "The American Dream". If you were really concerned about Swedish or Australian industry why don't you organize a grand protest and have our products boycotted?

    That's cool! You're welcome! :rock_slayer:
     
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    And this is our point - America is not safe
     
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    Washington DC has much stronger gun laws than Australia. They lock people up for even having a round of ammunition or a fired cartridge.
     
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    This be the demographic?

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    So if someone uses a vehicle to kill another person can the family of that victim sue the auto manufacturer ?
     
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    Absurd to think that without these ads people thought smoking tobacco was healthy. Back when I was a kid cigarettes were called cancer sticks.

    I guess what I have learned from liberals is that they believe the individual is not only incapable of making a personal risk management decision -- but they should not be allowed to make these decisions which should be made by the collective.
     

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