“Russia’s objective in the U.S. has already largely been achieved”

Congratulations, you have brillantly proven the OP's point.

 

LMAO, you're going to claim the Left was behind the Presidency during the Iraq war? You've got a great deal of revisionist history there, and it's too much to broadly go over, but simply stated: Not true.

 

Not what the OP said......but you go ahead and believe that.

 

What the OP essentially is saying(or rather, has been said since 2017) is that some Russian 'propaganda' mixed in with 'partisans'(which they surely mean right wing, because the WP will never address the left element during these years) created the social riff and that was the 'Russians goals and aims'. TLDR all of that: You're a bunch of lemmings.


Well, I've never subscribed to their viewpoint of what occurred in 2016 and afterwards. That would require me to ignore things like "deplorables", it would require me to ignore the beating of Trump supporters in the streets. It would require me to ignore for example AOC's political list after the 2020 election.

If there was a social riff, it was created by both sides and mostly not from the Kremlin's design. It insults the intelligence of every American when the WP puts out this garbage, even their own readers.

 

Hey libs, did Trump also give Crimea to Putin, or was that Obama? You guys might as well blame Trump for things that happened 100 years ago because we know sooner or later you will.

 

And soon it will be racist. Take it to the bank.

 

There's a free hat in every box.

 

Thats a very 'short-memoried' version of "Russia's obective in the U.S...." The bulk of what 'Russia' intended for the US was accomplished long before that by the Soviet Union and exposed by Soviet KGB agent and defector Yuri Besmenov in the early 1980's.

"Basically there are four steps to ideological subversion or "changing the perspective of reality" -- in other words a mass brainwashing. The first step is known as demoralization and it takes 15-20 years -- the span of time needed to educate one generation by exposing them to the "ideology of the enemy." In America we have had Marxist-Leninist ideology pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations of American students, without being challenged or counter-balanced by the basic values of Americanism (patriotism). And it makes not a whit of difference if these students are exposed to true information because "a person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information." Their minds are cemented. Total denial is in force. Does this not explain why statues are being destroyed and America is continually depicted as a racist country when, in fact, it is not? In fact, it would take another few generations to change the "tide of ideological perception of reality back to normalcy and patriotism."

The second step in ideological subversion is destabilization. This step can be accomplished in as little as five years and the focus is on "destabilizing sectors such as the economy, law enforcement, foreign relations, media, and defense systems." This destabilization results in "antagonistic clashes" and we see this nightly on the news. Fake news is a constant. Leftist mayors and governors want to tax the people to death, police are to be defunded and the military has become the petri dish for social experimentation. During the Obama years, the military was basically decimated in terms of arms and critical materiel.

The third stage in the mass brainwashing is the crisis stage. In this stage, Bezmenov explains that after society is destabilized, it collapses into chaos, and inevitably the people will call for the government to step in to enforce stability. Either a foreign nation comes in, or the local group of leftists, Marxists et al. take over. Consider that this is currently being played out in Seattle's autonomous zone known as CHOP. Ultimately, the crisis stage takes two forms: either civil war or invasion. It is not an accident that gun sales have risen ever since the riots and Black Lives Matters have become front and center.

The last step is normalization -- an ironic term, indeed as it means that any freedoms that Americans take for granted will be abolished. Thus, the subverting country finally seizes control of the target country with forceful military overthrow; the chaos is stabilized, and the situation "normalized" -- meaning now "there will be a promise of all kinds of goodies and paradise on earth to destabilize the economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a big brother government in Washington, D.C. with benevolent dictators who will promise lots of things. Never mind if the promises are fulfilled or not."

The Soviet Plan for ‘Ideological Subversion’ Describes Our Current Turmoil - American Thinker

 

Now the scumbag hacks at the Washington Post are calling opinion "analysis". The whole article is total garbage written for really stupid people.

 

I thought back in the days Bush Derangement Syndrome was off the chart by leftists until Trump comes along.

 

That communists use social Marxism to destabilize counties? Yes, of course that's happening. Conservatives have been pointing that out for ****ing decades now. But if you think its coming from the right please look around and which side operates the near entirety of media, big tech, education, and entertainment - and who owns them.

 

If you think record high crime in Democratic cities and illegal immigration and all the drugs that come from it is mere rhetoric then you badly need to educate yourself buddy.

results matter. Democrats give us bad results, they do nothing to change those results, therefore they must be okay with those results. It’s called objective logic. My guess is your next post will be but but but they didn’t actually say they love it blah blah blah. Spare me.

so again I’ll repeat: show me how they don’t love those things

 

No need when it is everywhere.

 

I never claimed it was "said". It was implied.

 

I don’t think it’s his fault.

 

Those that young can't vote

"Extremely".....maybe rural blacks, not urban blacks and white religious leaders are the same....and they get on TV.

I see your misogyny lessons are paying off

 

And nowhere

 

Putin took Crimea while Obama was in office.......should we have gone to war then? Should we go to war now? What's your point?

 

I don't agree but funny is funny

 

Who is this “group”?

 

That's happening? Communists using social Marxism to destabilize countries? Where? Other than China, Cuba and Vietnam.....where are there communist countries doing that? It's not and if Conservatives have been pointing that out for decades, they're lying. As far as the media.....it's the right that controls the largest (by far) media information outlet in the US (Fox). Conservatives don't like what the entertainment industry does because it moves society forward rather than always longing for the "golden age" that never happened other than their imaginations.

 

No, we should not go to war over stuff that happens in other countries. My point is Obama and now Biden are not just soft on Putin, but they appeased him. Trump put sanctions on Russia, Biden reversed them. Yet everyone on the left says Trump was the Russian puppet. It was Trump who got Europe to pay their fair share for NATO, an org designed to oppose Putin.

 

It was only implied by your imagination

 

Wrong
Trump only continued Obama's sanctions and did little else. Congress feared (bilaterally) that Trump was too soft and they put forth a bill that Trump signed very grudgingly. Biden didn't reverse and sactions that Trump did. Trump was and is a Russian puppet. The whole "fair share" of NATO is BS. The plan was already in place and Trump had very little effect on it. Regardless, NATO is there to oppose Putin but Ukraine is not part of NATO but if NATO does oppose Putin in this case, we are obligated to go along.

 

Geezzz not that canard again, the meeting was set up by Fusion GPS the hire gun of the Clinton campaign on the premise of a request for an acquaintance of Don jr. And yes to discuss the adoption ban. The woman met with her Fusion contacts, walked across the street to Trump Towers, up to the meeting room, Don Jr gave her a cordial welcome, five minutes into her talk he excused himself, the others did ten minutes later sending her packing where she went back to her Fusion GPS contacts and reported it didn't work they didn't take the bait. And yes people who have been engaged in international business and international policies meet with lots of international people. Meuller found NOTHING after his intense two year investigation. Continuing the false Russia narrative is nothing more than wishful thinking.