“Russia’s objective in the U.S. has already largely been achieved”

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  1. Giftedone

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    Yes .. the unsupported prognostications from a worthless source- are even more worthless than from legit/rational source.
     
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    Glad to see you agree with me.
     
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    Glad that you are glad -- savor this rare moment of agreement ... :afro:
     
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    Meh, it isn't that big of a deal. I usually win.
     
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    When they installed Trump in the WH, it was like slipping a drop or lethal poison in the drink called the United States.
     
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    Unfortunately, it's a perfect fit.
     
  7. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes .. I know .. we have discussed the booby prize .. a romper room favorite :)
     
  8. Lee Atwater

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    It may be useful to recall, given the narrow chances everyone gave Trump of winning, Russia's initial goal was likely to de-legitimize Clinton's presidency. This, given Putin's disdain for her and the utility of having conservatives spending 4 years trying to tear her down based on the false narrative Russia was responsible for creating. https://newrepublic.com/article/135472/no-dnc-didnt-rig-primary-favor-hillary
    The larger goal being to discredit the credibility of our elections in general by meddling in them. An effort that has been aided tremendously by Repub's persistent, unfounded assertions of virtually non-existent voter fraud.
     
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    "Manipulating the right and their media"???


    The left has turned most of the critical structures of a free nation into propaganda machines- from teaching small kids to hate the nation, condemn their parents, to filling universities with political radicals, to turning the media into political carnival barkers peddling false politics, to denying all the repulsive crap they do..... And of course, blaming it all on someone else, like they were adolescents in middle school who have yet to learn personal values, self-respect or any of the things critical to managing your own life successfully.

    You have to recognize and remember that there is no limit to what these people will do. They have no system of self-regulation, no moral standards to keep them in touch with reality or justice.
    Anything they think up, they are willing to pretend is real. The dysfunction is beyond the understanding of rational people- and you do not have to understand the why of it, just the fact it is so.
     
  10. ToughTalk

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    No. Not really. Nope.

    Here's DeAngelo calling Kimmel inherently racist. (because he's white) lol

    https://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-sho...ople-to-stop-saying-theyre-not-racist/4186081

    - you are white? You are inevitably and inherently/unaware racist!
    - white people should just remove the phrase "I'm not racist" from their vocabulary...lol
    - whites are ********s. (her words)
    - whites need to change. no other group. Just whites. lol.
    - there's nothing you can really do about it but accept it!
    - if that makes you angry, then you have white fragility!

    Now if you think her little dipshit ideology only targets Trumpers...you are missing her message. (which wouldn't surprise me) She and her ideology as well as Kendy's is supported by the left. And yet targets ALL WHITES regardless of political association. It is a dead end, ridiculous and is dividing our society by racial lines because...and get this, this may come as a shock to you;

    People generally do not like being vilified because of their identity. Which is exactly what her and her ilk's ideology does. There will never be a bridge created with this type of rhetoric. There will ALWAYS be a large group of people who refuse to be cast as the villian. Now...like that reality or not. It IS the reality. All of HISTORY taught us this. You can't escape it.

    So unless you enjoy the byproduct of white people socializing only with other white people because again...don't want to be socializing in circles where they are labelled racist inherently...then this is the way to go. And Putin thanks you for continuing his cause.

    Again. Supported by the left. I think we both agree that Kimmel is a left wing media outlet. So again. Well played Mr Putin, well played! Turned our diversity against ourselves!

    Got anything else or?
     
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    The attempts to blame this on Trump is a joke. Biden has been in office 13 months.

    Why would the GOP want an invasion? Biden is the one with poll numbers in the toilet and 2022 is looking like a disaster for dems. They want to wag the dog. You know talk tough and do almost nothing? Let millions more across our borders and encourage more violent crime in our cities.
     
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    You're making the same ridiculous argument the folks who want to ban teaching kids about the impact on blacks racism has had make. That you find her advocacy of having honest, open conversations about racism divisive is like saying it's divisive to talk to people who support Putin's war trying to advance autocracy. It's not the conversation that's the problem.
    BTW, she was talking to Fallon.
     
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  13. ToughTalk

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    Because her ideology is based on a false premise and targets ONLY WHITE PEOPLE. If you REALLY want to have an open dialogue about racism. It would absolutely be targeted towards all races having faults. And I should think the one race that tends to spam racist labels on every other race including their own race as a primary target for conversation. You can't call a white person a cracka and think it's innocent. Or each other the N word.

    But alas that's not what this is, is it? It's very targeted and that's it's downfall. So there is no bridge that's going to be built with this. You get that right? This isn't going to turn people towards each other. It's going to push people away from each other and only sticking in safe social circles based on racial characteristics and ideologies. Because NOBODY wants to be called "inherently racist" LOL. If I wanted to recruit more people towards white nationalism...I would absolutely be using DeAngelo's rhetoric. Which is exactly why I see her as a huge problem and of course anyone with half a brain would recognize this reality as well. Which is why it's so unpopular.

    All of history is on my side here fella. This is a dead end, disastrous ideology. And Putin thanks you for supporting it. Because he knows what I have just stated. This will tear or diverse societies apart. In a few short years of going down this road, we now have black people WILLINGLY calling for segregation.

    LOL. Good job fella, Good job.
     
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    I like boobies.....
     
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    Your question does not address THIS and tries to divert and excuse why should I?
     
  16. Lee Atwater

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    It's not an ideology. It's a recognition of objective reality.
     
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    Putin has unfinished business in America

    Maybe now that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is well underway, the implications of President Vladimir Putin’s actions against the United States in 2016 will finally sink in, especially for Republicans in Congress. The Vladimir Putin who planned, staged and launched a large-scale war on Ukraine is the same Vladimir Putin who ordered an aggressive, multifaceted, clandestine campaign to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

    Putin’s Ukraine goal: pull that country from the West and back into Russia’s sphere of influence. His U.S. goal in 2016: undermine the democratic process, disparage and undercut Hillary Clinton and her campaign for president, and help elect Donald Trump.

    The outcome of his Ukraine campaign is yet to be decided. His U.S. effort found full success. But more than a personality contest was at stake five years ago. To be sure, Putin had his reasons for loathing Clinton.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/25/putin-biden-trump-2024-election-interference/

    Trump is still trying to advance Putin's goals.
     
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    it isn't. it's being widely rejected as ridiculous and regressive.



    Not a ton of likes on that video and the comments section should tell ya all you need to know as to how this ideology is being received by the population. If you have this notion in your brain that "if only people LISTENED to what she is saying they would see she's right!" Even if she were right, (which she's not...she's wrong) People tune out her message the moment she declares "all white people are racist".

    And it's evident by any comment section associated to anything she does. The parents reaction to her **** being taught in classrooms. Everywhere she is, really.

    Human nature. It's a bitch huh?

    Putin thanks her for her divisive rhetoric though!
     
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    As do all babes .. :)
     
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    .......by ridiculous regressives.
     
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    Nope by everyone on both sides...you need to address that reality. It's not political lines rejecting this. There is NO group of people on this planet whom at any time, ever in all of history...appreciated being vilified based on their race.

    This **** being pushed by the left is a dead end. White people simply won't go for it. Regardless if they are progressive or not.
     
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    People of all stripes find confronting institutionalized racism uncomfortable. So they attack the messenger. News flash, water is wet.
     
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    Well it makes it even harder when you can't pin point it or prove institutional racism...
     
  24. Lee Atwater

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    I've long since come to understand there is no stopping people who want to deny objective truth.
     
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    and yet the end result is a racially divided nation. and putin thanks you.
     

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