Why do white Americans have to pander to blacks?

it should not be used at all, I believe in an all or none approach.... though I prefer no one use the word

 

yeah, I remember the right banning a word that referred to the tea party here, one that the tea party at first used to describe themselves

the word is stared out on this site as the right got so upset by it

 

I think many people, including many black people will agree with you.

 

If a black kid uses the word with a black friend, the intent is very likely to be very different than if a white kid barks it at a black kid. The word is offensive to me either way (one of several words that are absolutely verboten in my classroom) but intention can be a lot of things.

 

I see no evidence of this.

 

It was interesting when I dated a young black woman. I found that we were often treated badly when we went out for dinner. On a couple of occasions it was clear that we were not welcome. A number of times the racial bias was glaringly obvious. I've been dating young white women for a decade and was never treated like this otherwise. It was only when I was dating a young black woman. We were made to wait until everyone else was seated even though we were there first. We were seated alone at a bar instead of a table. We were seated outside where it was freezing cold, when everyone else was seated inside. There were a few more similar episodes over a period of a year.

I was shocked. It was quite an eye opener.

 

Maybe you were just a lot more self-conscious yourself.

 

So my wife is Fijian. She often tells me that other East Indian people stare at us but I typically don’t notice it. She says they judge us for being inter-racial.

I had never noticed white people doing that until one time my wife and I drove from Vancouver down to Portland to watch the eclipse a few years back. At that time I did notice white folks staring at us although I can’t say it was particularly in a judgemental way. If anything some of them had more of “isn’t that nice” aura to them.

 

So do some white people. Every one of those. These happens more often to people who are not white, but it isn't exclusive to them.

 

The culture war is a distraction the politicians use to keep our minds off of other things. So is the race war. There are other reasons to vote aside from the race and culture wars. Many vote Democrat because they are seen as more supportive of social programs like public health care and income support for example. You could be a Bernie Sanders minus any race talk and you would still be a Democrat.

 

They use race as a way to antagonize and distract. It is politics 101. It is something we should resist. We should resist talking in terms of "the whites" and "the blacks" as if people in these groups are all the same. The idea that there is a "black vote" and "white vote" really should be disturbing to people.

 

Yes it does. Intent always matters.

 

I don't believe in magic words. Words are just mouth noises. Intent and interpretation of them are what matter. Say seal in french for example.

 

What I find remarkable is that in talks of black people having more rights than white people (they don't) you rarely hear it mentioned that women have more rights than men (they do).

And I also find it interesting that being transexual is protected but being transracial is still taboo.

 

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I don't believe that. Neither do I care. None of it is the end of the world. It's just the price we pay for living with fallible humans.

 

thank you, I think any word bad for one race to say, is bad for all races to say

 

How could skin color be "out of place".

It's skin, right??

Did someone make you kneel?

 

Agreed. Plus, we have to remember that the blatant racism discussed here is not even slightly symmetric.

The majority is simply in a different position wrt what is said, done, etc. And, that is especially true given the length and severity of the racial discrimination that exists to this day.

 

I dont think it can be argued that 'they have more rights'... it could perhaps be argued that they have more priveledges, such as an easier time getting admitted to a university or getting hired for a job by being able to qualify as a 'diversity hire', but that doesnt have anything to do with rights afaict. And I think it would be no more or less difficult to argue that than it would be to argue that they are due such priveledge afforded by govt as a result of some pretty racist treatment by the govt in the past, like being targetted for drug addiction, broken families and dependency on the state as means to politicall manipulate, suppress and control their communities.

 

Amen.

I would contend that a few points toward college entrance merely helps identify those who have proven potential by meeting college entrance standards under harsh conditions of weak k-12 and other discrimination.

 

No word is bad to say. It is the intent and interpretation that matters, and that is all that matters. Words themselves are just noises.

 

There are words, such as the "N-word" that have a strong and perpetual interpretation that absolutely DOES matter.

Our society has all sorts of "noises" that have well known specific meaning held in common across the entire country. Those noises aren't even limited to being words, nor do dictionaries necessarily list all the possible meanings. They can indeed be nothing but noises.

I do agree that some words that don't carry heavy social context can be used in ways that mean a lot more than what is in the dictionary. That is the nature of language, and it has to be considered as well.

 

so if Trump used the n-word with the same intent as Obama, you would be fine with it?

I say it's a bad word to use regardless of who uses it

 

For example historical film and black guy has role of white guy. For example the fall of Troy